August 23rd, 2012 10:23 PM
New guy from South florida is upset about skyrocketing ammo costs. Thoughts,fellas?
First let me say, cudos to the men who wrote the rules of conduct for this boarde. After reading it...I said to myself "Wow...if we threw out the constitution, and just used the rules posted here for laws for living on the outside, what a much better place it would be. One reason why? People would know their place! Saying that phrase.."knowing your place" used to be a racist comment down south 40 years ago. But now it seems from teenagers in school who think its ok to threaten other students and even teachers, to all the people who randomly walk into your neighborhood with tattoos from their ankles running straight up their neck hoping youll step on their toe, to all the wanna be gang bangers who have no command of the english language at all anymore...to men who think it is ok to reach out and touch a woman they like on the street!!!!.......its time people are taught to know their place, I think. The rules here are a great start. Kudos!
Now..onto the nuts and bolts....how much more can ammo keep rising. Gold, oil, stock prices, everything that seems to go up parabolically,always crashes back down.....except ammo! Why? Well, one guy on another board said that the distributors of ammo dont care what we think because the military is buying most of the ammo it can get its hands on anyway! Christ, I never thought of that. But then , if thats true, where are gangs, criminals, drug cartels and people in foreign countries who want "made in the USA" ammo getting them from?
Would someone like to take a crack at telling me, please......
By the way, this is my first post. You can call me Daytrader. Pleasure to meet you all. I was born and raised in Brooklyn but now reside in Florida last 8 years.
August 23rd, 2012 10:24 PM
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August 23rd, 2012 10:46 PM
Welcome from South Carolina...
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August 23rd, 2012 10:47 PM
August 23rd, 2012 10:48 PM
I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.
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August 23rd, 2012 11:04 PM
August 23rd, 2012 11:05 PM
Welcome from Alabama
You want ammo prices to go down, then buy less of it.
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August 23rd, 2012 11:15 PM
I think I know where you're coming from, but let me suggest that including in the first line of your first post the phrase "if you threw out the Consitution" is certain to raise a lot of eyebrows. But thank you for reading the Forum rules as you apparently have, and we look forward to your questions and contributions.
Now about ammo prices. You really need to put that subject into perspective. In 1991 I took my first handgun training course and purchased a case of Winchester .45 ball ammo for $125, plus tax. A decade later I was buying the same stuff for a few bucks less. In 2008 I took a carbine course and needed 5.56 as well as .45 ammo, and guess what - I paid maybe $140 for that same case of .45 ball, a 12% increase in 17 years! Winchester 9mm ball is currently cheaper in bulk than it was a couple of years ago, just $118/500 at the Crossroads gun show (Phoenix) 2 weeks ago, and I actually got a case for $95 at a winter show.
Several things are at work to drive prices, notably commodity prices (copper, tin, lead) and moreso, supply and demand. I track 5.56x45 ammo cost, and last December I could get Federal M193 for around 31 cents a round, but today if you can find it, it's about 40 cents a round. But we're just 11 weeks away from a hotly contested Presidential election, and the hoarding has begun. The ammo retailers are fueling the hype as well. When politics are stable, then they talk about commodity shortages and price increases. When prices are stable, they'll hype the politics and the gun laws. This has been going on since around 1968.
Bottom line, there's nothing magical or mystical going on; just like the stock market, the key is "buy low, sell high." Duh! I recommend keeping an eye on prices at least monthly, buy ahead when you can, and over time your average per-round cost won't seem so bad. Oh, and get into reloading if you shoot a lot.
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August 23rd, 2012 11:16 PM
Welcome from Wisconsin>
I wrote a couple of threads about ammo prices
August 24th, 2012 12:29 AM
August 24th, 2012 12:43 AM
from Central Florida!
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August 24th, 2012 01:41 AM
Well, we're living in the day of the devalued dollar and that is going to get better any time soon.
So...how high can ammo prices go? The sky is the limit I guess.
So...how much has the U.S. Dollar been devalued? Many years ago a 20 dollar Gold Piece - (at the time having the equal worth of 20 paper dollars) would buy you a nice suit and a nice necktie and a dress shirt & maybe toss in a nice pair of dress shoes and a silk handkerchief.
Today...$20.00 in paper money will barely get you a decent necktie.
But a $25.00 Gold Eagle valued at around $850.00 these days will still get you a decent suit, dress shirt, necktie & shoes.
So that is how much "worth" has been incrementally robbed from our dollar.
Now...back on topic to...WELCOME!
August 24th, 2012 02:07 AM
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August 24th, 2012 04:00 AM
Welcome Aboard and Greetings from Rocky Top Tennessee
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August 24th, 2012 06:10 AM
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