November 2nd, 2012 11:58 AM
New guy from NY
Hello there, I am going to soon be new to the world of carrying. I just turned 21 and applied for my pistol permit.
I grew up around guns, starting with the bb gun at age 8. Then my dad got me a bb pistol and then I moved onto the 22, .410, 12 gauge and then my dad got his pistol permit and two .22 pistols. I have also shot some bigger revolvers and pistols but I was younger and do not remember the names/sizes. All I remember is the revolver kicked like a horse and by the time I was done with 6 shots my ears were ringing for a few hours even with ear protection!
Now I just turned 21, and applied for the permit which can take anywhere from 3-6 months to get here in NY. That is all fine with me as I will have a nice amount of time to decide on which guns to look at.
I would also appreciate some input on the following guns I am looking at to be used as a carry and conceal. If you know anything about them I would appreciate your quick over view of the gun if you own one. Though I am leaning towards the bodyguard, the other ones also have my interest. My other concern is looks. I like things that look good and some pistols just look damn ugly. Now I am not giving up performance for looks, but I want you to know that I prefer a more tactical looking pistol than a revolver or ugly pistol like my dads smith and wesson 22A1 http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/...CE516FB377A100
Guns being considered:
Smith and Wesson Bodyguard 380
Smith and Wesson M&P9C
Smith and Wesson M&P Shield (slightly shorter than the m&p9c)
And to follow up with those guns, my girlfriends dad's friend who is a range master said I should start off with a .357 or .380 as my first gun. But I don't think he knows I have grown up around them.
And lastly when I take the C&C course, write a letter to the judge and give up the $250 what are my rights with it. Is there a site I can find the "how to guide" on carrying in New York? I want to know when it's considered self defense, when to pull the trigger, do you act like a cop and shoot to kill or shoot to incapacitate? Any help is appreciated.
I will stick around, as I am a constant forum goer for each one of my hobbies.
Last edited by A7xSchecter6661; November 2nd, 2012 at 02:29 PM.
November 2nd, 2012 12:33 PM
Hey, welcome to the Forum! Yours is a inciteful and mature first post. I'm not much help to you on the pistols illustrated but there are a host of well-versed individuals here who can bring a lot of knowledge to bear on your questions.
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November 2nd, 2012 01:00 PM
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November 2nd, 2012 01:28 PM
November 2nd, 2012 01:33 PM
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November 2nd, 2012 01:38 PM
Welcome from Wisconsin!
You'll probably get all kinds of information on your state's gun laws in your CC class. In the meantime you can try this site - Handgunlaw.us. It's a sub-forum at the heading for the Concealed Carry Forum which you can access directly. I hope you don't have to wait too long for your permit/license to come & you can start exercising your 2nd Amendment rights.
As for which gun to get. I'd suggest the Shield or it's larger brother the M&P9 or 40C. I'm partial to .40 cal myself but there's nothing wrong with 9MM & the Shield comes in both calibers but most of the time they're on back order. 9MM ammo is less expensive so that might be a good choice for that alone. The important thing is that you at least handle anything you're interested in. If you can shoot them it's a plus. Another "important thing" is that you arm yourself regardless which you decide on. Then find a good range & practice as much as you can. This can all be done while you're waiting for your carry permit. When it arrives you can strap your gun on & you'll have the assurance that you're ready to defend yourself or loved ones.
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November 2nd, 2012 01:42 PM
New guy from NY
Welcome from okl. I have a bodyguard!!! Love it!!
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November 2nd, 2012 02:25 PM
Yes, I will be able to handle the m&p and the bodyguard. A local shop has them both in stock :) As for the range, I have a gun club about 6 miles away and we have 180 acres to shoot on :)
Originally Posted by GH
That's what I like to hear. For the low cost of $350-400 you get a nice, small hang gun with a laser. Enough for defense, slightly more expensive ammo. A clip larger than 6 rounds would be nice but this thing is tiny. It's the same size as my dad's Taurus P22 but that gun fits my hand nicely.
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November 2nd, 2012 02:48 PM
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November 2nd, 2012 02:53 PM
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November 2nd, 2012 03:08 PM
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November 2nd, 2012 03:55 PM
Welcome from South Carolina...Good luck in your journey and be safe! Remember, just because you are able to shoot COM on a target, does not necessarily give you the ability to defend yourself with your weapon. Seek out, and obtain some "quality professional defensive pistol training". At that point you will now be on the path to having the ability to defend yourself, and perhaps others, with your weapon...While training, also study your state laws concerning carry of a concealed weapon. Again, GOOD LUCK IN YOUR JOURNEY!!! JMO
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November 2nd, 2012 03:57 PM
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November 2nd, 2012 04:11 PM
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November 2nd, 2012 04:17 PM
Sorry, not trying to be a grammar nazi but I think/hope you meant "insightful"... Incite means to encourage violence.... kinda changes the meaning a bit.
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