Hello from Alabama
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June 13th, 2013 03:39 AM
Hello from Alabama
Hey guys. I've been a lurker of this forum since I started working at a 24/7 gas station. The frequent contact with belligerent alcoholics and meth addicts that frequent stores in what is generally a nice town with good people put the thought in my head I may need to apply for my pistol permit. I've rolled this thought over in my head for a year. Well last weekend, the 8th I believe, two stores within 15 minutes of where I was working got robbed. One of the clerk's was armed and fires at the robber, possibly hit the news paper says. The other clerk who was unarmed at a different store was not nearly as lucky and was shot.
That Monday I bought a new Taurus model 85 ultralight with the intent of pocket carrying it. Unfortunately it doesnt work well the the strangely cut pockets of my work pants. That tuesday, the 11th, I spent all of 37 seconds filling out my pistol permit application and was told to check back this upcoming Monday. I've been told by family that pretty much means bring them 20 bucks and pick it up.
Now the general policy of this company is no firearms while working, would irresponsible to say yea bring a gun!, but the ceo is a close personal friend of my grandfather and said it is fine if I do, under the condition they could let me carry or find a new person for nights. The only "catch" is no one can see it or know about it, concealed lol. That being said I would like to hear some thoughts on the best way to completely make this gun disappear. Keep in mind there is lots of bending, stooping, twisting ect and I will have to work closely with employees for about the last three hours of a shift.
Thanks for taking the time to read all that! Thanks in advance for all the help. Any and all related advice is welcome! New to concealing not new to guns!
June 13th, 2013 03:39 AM
June 13th, 2013 05:13 AM
Long perhaps a shade too long in the leg (experiment and find a 'good fit' lenthwise) and ankle carry (a snubby?). For the very reasons you specified I've always been wary of working in a 24/7 C-store unarmed and defenseless.
Have a chat with the CEO and get his official Okey Dokey to CC in writing.
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June 13th, 2013 05:59 AM
Hey man thanks for the reply. Yea I've learned from experience not to take people for their word. We talked about it over the weekend while fishing. I'm going to have my lawyer draw something up to the effect that he nor he's company isn't liable if I do something stupid. I know a few folks within the company that do carry and talk pretty openly about it so liability seems to be the issue. Though the safe side is the smart side. May I ask what you mean by long in the leg? I've thought about an ankle holster but it seems awkward to draw from. Odds are if I have to draw it will be with a gun facing me. So I'm unsure of when and how ill need to be drawing at This point
June 13th, 2013 06:37 AM
Welcome from PA. Glad you found us. I feel pocket carrying is pretty discrete and if people see a bulge in your pants pocket they are less likely to scream gun than if they see the bulge on your hip. if you need to deep conceal also think about a Smart Carry. Look them up, they may be what you are needing since the pocket carrying isnt working out for you. Happy shooting.
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June 13th, 2013 07:00 AM
Welcome from Wisconsin!
If you can wear your shirts untucked then maybe an inside the waistband holster would work for you. There are some made that even allow you to tuck the shirt in between the gun & the belt clips.
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June 13th, 2013 07:20 AM
Hello! Welcome from South East Kansas!
If you are facing a loaded gun and unless you are really fast on the draw it could be to late. I recommend some training and a lot of practice.
June 13th, 2013 07:29 AM
Welcome to the forum!
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June 13th, 2013 07:45 AM
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June 13th, 2013 07:51 AM
Welcome from Tennessee.......the "Patron State of Shootin' Stuff!"
When I was a cop I use to check on all the clerks I could in the C-Stores like yours. It can be dangerous work, just keep a watchful eye out and stay safe. Glad to have you aboard!
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June 13th, 2013 07:59 AM
Thanks everybody! I really appreciate the feedback. That smart carry actually looks incredible as i could use the counter to conceal getting the gun from the holster. I was also considering an iwb that allows me to tuck my shirt in so i could tuck and undershirt since i am in fact allowed to keep my uniform shirt untucked. I really did want to pocket carry and the pockets of the pants are deep enough to hold the gun but the openings are extremely tall and one can see the underside of the pistol grip from behind very clearly. I agree though I really think training is the key. Keeping aware will probably be the hardest but most effective way to get the gun before it is too late. There are plenty of windows around the door. There is no way to enter the building without a good 10 feet of walking beside a large track of windows leading to the door. I was speaking to a local LEO this morning and he recommended a place for me to receive some defensive pistol training. And Yes all of the local police in my itty bitty town come and hang out with me regularly at night. Mainly for free coffee :D
June 13th, 2013 08:22 AM
Welcome Aboard and Greetings from Rocky Top Tennessee
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June 13th, 2013 08:26 AM
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June 13th, 2013 08:34 AM
...AIWB and leave shirt untucked...I work in a pocket Tshirt and it hides my P90 .45 and my SP101 snub between my belt buckle and left hip...I climb ladders, under houses, always reaching and carrying...never spotted...wear a 2x shirt when a 1x would do me...
...learn to hook the shirt and pull it up and draw with one hand...the other may be keeping his muzzle off you or the knife...you won't have a predictable situation...
...your best defense is to be AWAKE and alert...get your sleep when you're off work...I patrolled graveyards most of my years, and many times came in and found the clerk asleep...or so groggy they didn't know I had come in...be awake...look them in the eye...as you come out of the cooler, speak over your shoulder to your "coworker" back there...keep 'em guessing...if they make you nervous...tell 'em not to hang around, the stakeout cop in the back doesn't like it...
...retail at night these days, it's not so much a question of IF, but WHEN...don't be bashful about prayin' for protection...
June 13th, 2013 08:43 AM
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June 13th, 2013 08:51 AM
Welcome from Montgomery, try SmartCarry - Concealed Gun Holsters I have one and use it.
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