I'm new so what to say, let's talk Brownings BDM, and Universals M1 Carbine.

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    I'm new so what to say, let's talk Brownings BDM, and Universals M1 Carbine.

    I am 65 years old and seen a lot in that time, I am an automotive automatic transmission specialist and have been all my life. My interest in guns has been hot and cold over many years, I've ownened several that I hadn't even shot because of trade deals and sold later for cash. My last trade in 1992 is the one that sticks with me as stupid but with a little sunshine. I was changing jobs and moving out of state and had to lighten my load, I had a Remington model 70A 30.06 with a Weaver scope that was my dad's, a Rugar New Model Black Hawk in 30 carbine with a western holster, and an early Universal M1 Carbine. Never shot the Remington, the Black Hawk was fun but always shot low and to the left, the Universal M1 was just a ball to shot, gave me lots of giggles when I rapid fired it. Well I traded them all in for a Bowning BDM, and I didn't know a thing about it except I liked how it felt in my hand and the balance, (and it looked real good). I know now that the guns I traded in were worth way more than the BDM, but I have licked my wounds and have come to love this gun and it's 15 round mags. I have found and alturnative to the factory 15 round mags that work well with some modification in my BDM, just ask, and I'll tell you how to make this 15 round aftermarket mag work without jamming.
    I also corrected another mistake and got a newer (only 50 rounds through it) Universal M1 Carbine that I tricked out with some GI parts and added a Weaver scope to and eight new 30 round mags, yet to be tested but I have high hopes, I'll let you know. I now know an lot about both of these guns, except one thing, here goes my questions.
    Will the BDM handle +p+ ammunition safely, specifically BuffaloBore 124 gr JHP, I need to know as I have bought some and don't want to find out the hard way.
    The M1 Carbine is very underpowered with the standard Ammo loads, the standard M1 round is very similer to a standard 9mm round as far as FPS, and muzzle energy is conerned. I know it can handle much more powerfull loads, it's built like a tank, but are there any available, does anyone know, how about re-loads? After getting these solved, my thoughts are then on the Springfield M1A, SoCom, any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RClark View Post
    Well I traded them all in for a Bowning BDM, and I didn't know a thing about it except I liked how it felt in my hand and the balance, (and it looked real good). I know now that the guns I traded in were worth way more than the BDM, but I have licked my wounds and have come to love this gun and it's 15 round mags.
    Have had two BDM's. Love them for all the reasons you've described. They are flat-riding, well-balanced and easy to use in a way that most guns will never touch. The gun makers could all take a page from the design book, on that one. Except for the backwards-functioning safety/decocker lever, which IMO would be much more serviceable if it were up-safe and down-fire (instead of the down-decock/safe format). Ah well. No gun's perfect.


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    Will the BDM handle +p+ ammunition safely, specifically BuffaloBore 124 gr JHP, I need to know as I have bought some and don't want to find out the hard way.
    Yes and no. My recommendation would be to simply find a decent, hard-hitting, reliable round you're comfortable with, and go with that. Having a 4" barrel, it's not going to suffer much by having "only" a +P for your carry ammo instead of a +P+.

    My suggestion is based on there having been many reports (at least, early on) of the relatively lightly-made BDM frame cracking under repeated stress of heavy loads. Don't recall that much, in the later years. And I never experienced anything but near-flawless function in my one BDM, and fairly excellent function in my second one. Neither had any issues with showing any ill effects due to quite a lot of +P shooting. Mostly, though, these were shot like stink on the range with 115-147gr FMJ "range" rounds and shot a little with 115-124gr JHP +P carry rounds. BTW, in my original BDM, I had put nearly 40K rounds through it, with roughly ~10% of these being standard-pressure or +P SD rounds of various types.


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    The M1 Carbine is very underpowered with the standard Ammo loads, the standard M1 round is very similer to a standard 9mm round as far as FPS, and muzzle energy is conerned. I know it can handle much more powerfull loads, it's built like a tank, but are there any available, does anyone know, how about re-loads?
    .30 carbine load info that might be worth reviewing: .30 Carbine @ ChuckHawks.com; and Best Choices for SD Ammo / .30 carbine @ AR15.com.
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