A most interesting forum

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    A most interesting forum

    I live in central California, and applied for a CCW for the sole purpose of defense - driving up to my residence after dark and surprising a BG (the house can not be seen from the public road - only one entrance/exit).
    I am in the process and will probably have the permit to carry in about 3-6 weeks.
    The thought of carrying has brought up dilemmas that I would like resoved before taking on the added responsibility. My questions will be about senarios and how one should react. I have read several posts that say only use your weapon if you yourself are threatened, or only if it is worth your house, which I fully agree.
    But is that the only criteria? I will post what I am not clear on, and ask for your advice.

    PS As you may be able to tell I am a teacher (very verbose).
    Not a liberal though...

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    The criteria in which you are able to use a gun to defend yourself with is entirely dependent on the laws of the state that you are in. Every state is different, so the information that you get may or may not be accurate due to the fact that some people forget that the laws of their state don't apply to your state. Therefore it is your responsibility and yours alone, to know the laws of your state inside and out before you carry a concealed weapon.

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    BTW...welcome to the forum. Its always good to have a another teacher that aint a liberal here...
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    Welcome to the forum. You should be able to find many of your answers here.
    Some of the answers that you cannot find here are the ones that you need to search for inside yourself.
    Then you must factor in a bit of individual state law and you're off to a great start.
    Feel free to ask questions.
    Ask lots of questions & you'll get lots of various answers.
    So you'll need to sift through things a bit.
    Your good common sense will get you going off in the correct direction.
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    Welcome from Missouri. Sounds like you already recieved some good advice.

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    Welcome to the forum....
    Kudos to you on your quest for accurate information....
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    Welcome. Wow! Another academic, not a Liberal. Thought that we had just about become an extinct species.

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    Welcome to defensivecarry.com! Glad to have another enlightened soul from California see the light.

    Quote Originally Posted by GBS View Post
    I live in central California, and applied for a CCW for the sole purpose of defense.

    My questions will be about senarios and how one should react. I have read several posts that say only use your weapon if you yourself are threatened, or only if it is worth your house, which I fully agree.
    If you haven't already done so, I'd recommend two excellent books:
    • In The Gravest Extreme, by Massad Ayoob. It's available on Amazon.com and a number of other places. Written over 25yrs ago, it's a bit dated, but it's all great material. It focuses on the pros/cons and the decisions you must make as someone armed with a weapon. It speaks about the many "mines" that are placed in front of you by the laws, people's ability to still sue you in civil court, etc.
    • How To Own A Gun And Stay Out Of Jail: California, by John Machtinger. Very good summary of the basic laws in California. While sometimes still not in plain English, given how twisted some of the laws really are (as written), it is a good book to have to help clarify most of the requirements you have legally.

    Carried for years in California, myself.

    California's one of those places where, in a very real sense, criminals as "victims" are afforded almost more "rights" than defenders against them. If you do find it necessary to defend the life of yourself or your loved ones, at least in California you should be prepared to lose everything you have financially from the whirlwind that's kicked up in the wake of that action. Sadly, the schmucks folks have voted into government, there, have deemed it a worthwhile sport to go after a person's very last nickel in recompense of the effrontery of defending one's self. Leastwise, that's the practical effect of whatever prompts such thinking in the first place. For the foreseeable future, that's the way it is. Eyes wide open. Good luck!
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