Bad: Two Killed During Failed Carjacking, NJ

This is a discussion on Bad: Two Killed During Failed Carjacking, NJ within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Engaged Couple Killed in NJ Carjacking - AOL News They would have stood a better chance if they were both armed!...

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18

Thread: Bad: Two Killed During Failed Carjacking, NJ

  1. #1
    VIP Member Array Hiram25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Wyoming, DE
    Posts
    10,961

    Bad: Two Killed During Failed Carjacking, NJ

    Engaged Couple Killed in NJ Carjacking - AOL News

    They would have stood a better chance if they were both armed!

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #2
    Moderator
    Array RETSUPT99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    44,498
    Terrible crime, and the scumbags who did this are still roaming the city...they need to be taking dirtnaps.
    The last Blood Moon Tetrad for this millennium starts in April 2014 and ends in September 2015...according to NASA.

    ***********************************
    Certified Glock Armorer
    NRA Life Member[/B]

  4. #3
    Moderator
    Array Bark'n's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    West Central Missouri
    Posts
    9,917
    From the AP as posted in AOLNEWS.com

    Engaged Couple Killed in NJ Carjacking

    JERSEY CITY, N.J. (April 4) - An engaged couple returning to their northern New Jersey home early today were fatally shot in what authorities believe was a botched carjacking.

    Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said 27-year-old Michael Muchiaki and his 25-year-old girlfriend, Nia Haqq, were both shot twice in the head. They were found near their car, which was not taken.

    The couple had attended a party in New Brunswick and returned to their Jersey City home around 3 a.m., DeFazio said.

    As they parked their car, they were approached by a man and two women, who later fled the scene in another vehicle.

    DeFazio said that based on the crime scene and witness statements, it appears the victims were shot during an unsuccessful carjacking.

    Authorities believe their car could not be taken because it had anti-theft device.
    If you're going to resist, it should be armed resistance. It's going to really suck if it was the anti-car theft device that caused everything to go bad.

    So far the story is way too vague. Not a very happy Easter for that poor couple. Very sad situation.
    -Bark'n
    Semper Fi


    "The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."

  5. #4
    Senior Member Array DIABLO9489's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    1,071
    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    If you're going to resist, it should be armed resistance. It's going to really suck if it was the anti-car theft device that caused everything to go bad.

    So far the story is way too vague
    . Not a very happy Easter for that poor couple. Very sad situation.
    I second that
    Colt New Agent, Dan Wesson V-Bob, Glock 19,20SF, 23, 26, 27, 29, 30SF, 36, Kahr P380 w/CT, PM9, PM45, CW9(SOLD), Kel-Tec P32, P3AT, PF9(SOLD), Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II, Stainless Pro TLE/RL II (SOLD), Rohrbaugh R9s, Ruger LCP w/CT, LCR, SP101 S&W J-Frame 638 w/CT, M&P 340 w/CT, Walther PPK/S

  6. #5
    Member Array bornlucky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    missouri
    Posts
    94
    Now, that is a shame.
    I grew up in the surrounding area and Jersey City always was(is) a risky area. I always had my guard up if I drove into Jersey City.

  7. #6
    VIP Member Array searcher 45's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    TEXAS
    Posts
    4,151
    This does not sound right to me.

    Two in the head of both victims in a carjacking sounds more like a hit or some thing to me.

    Being SA and armed is a good thing no matter what.
    NOT LIVING IN FEAR, JUST READY!!!
    I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness,
    nor the arrow for its swiftness,
    nor the warrior for his glory.
    I love only that which they defend.
    -J.R.R. Tolkien

  8. #7
    Distinguished Member Array PastorPack's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    1,572
    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    If you're going to resist, it should be armed resistance. It's going to really suck if it was the anti-car theft device that caused everything to go bad.

    So far the story is way too vague. Not a very happy Easter for that poor couple. Very sad situation.
    Hey, the anti-theft device worked! The car was not stolen.

    The failure here was that the couple didn't have an anti-death device.

    This is a sad and alarming story. It will be interesting to see if there are future developments. Was this a hit, or just some drug-crazed idiot who no longer cared that the car was not worth a double homicide?
    God is love (1 John 4:8)

  9. #8
    VIP Member Array xXxplosive's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,685
    12th homicide in JC this year..............surprised there aren't way more and more crime. Remember, we can't carry anything in New Jersey to defend ouselves....not even a folding knife unless you are fishing or hunting and have the appropriate licenses.

  10. #9
    Member Array reinhold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Catamount Tavern, Vermont
    Posts
    72
    This needless double homicide is really sad. New Jersey residents need to demand less restrictive firearm / carry laws now, ....or buy more body bags. (and California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois, etc...)

    Here's a little helper for you:

    Vermont: Any non-felon can carry whatever they want, no restrictions, no permit.

    Vermont: 8 Murders, 145 rapes, 73 robberies, 520 assaults, 3,064 burglaries, 10,505 thefts, 641 auto thefts (and 4 of those murders were a non-resident killing his family)

    New Jersey: In New Jersey, firearm owners are required to get a lifetime Firearm Purchaser card for the purchase of rifles, shotguns or handguns as well as ammunition. To purchase a handgun, a separate permit is needed from the local police department for each handgun to be purchased and expires after 90 days. These, like the initial Firearms Identification card, require in-depth application questioning, multiple references and background checks via the State Bureau of Identification and New Jersey State Police. NJ law states that Firearms Identification approval and/or handgun purchase permit(s) must be issued within 30 days. Capacities of semiautomatic handguns and rifles (total in magazine excluding chamber) are limited to 15 rounds or less. N.J. Rev. Stat 2C:39-1y. New Jersey allows the purchase, possession and use of hollowpoint ammunition except in concert with any sort of criminal activity. New Jersey has its own ban on various semi-automatic firearms as well.[163] Police are bound by the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) in NJ and cannot own those firearms unless they are signed off by the Chief as used in an official capacity. They are exempt from the magazine limits when used in a duty/off duty firearm and approved by the department.

    It is the express policy of New Jersey legislative and law enforcement authorities that the carrying of a handgun on one's person be strictly limited only to those earning a living through the carrying of a handgun. Theoretically, there exists a route for a civilian to legally carry a handgun, but in reality, is practically nonexistent.

    Starting January 1, 2010, New Jersey limited handgun purchases to one per 30 day period.

    New Jersey: 417 murders, 1,208 rapes, 13,215 robberies, 16,079 assaults, 38,980 burglaries, 136,728 thefts, 27,683 auto thefts.

    hmmmmm
    I know what you're thinking: "Did he fire six shots or only five?" "Is that a Smith & Wesson 686+ 7 shot or 627 8 shot?" "Does he have a concealed Sig P226 SCT and two spare mags?" You've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?

  11. #10
    Member Array wpage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    85

    Shameful NJ Gun Laws Speak Volumes Read the Statistics and Weap

    Quote Originally Posted by reinhold View Post
    This needless double homicide is really sad. New Jersey residents need to demand less restrictive firearm / carry laws now, ....or buy more body bags. (and California, Massachusetts, New York, Illinois, etc...)

    Here's a little helper for you:

    Vermont: Any non-felon can carry whatever they want, no restrictions, no permit.

    Vermont: 8 Murders, 145 rapes, 73 robberies, 520 assaults, 3,064 burglaries, 10,505 thefts, 641 auto thefts (and 4 of those murders were a non-resident killing his family)

    New Jersey: In New Jersey, firearm owners are required to get a lifetime Firearm Purchaser card for the purchase of rifles, shotguns or handguns as well as ammunition. To purchase a handgun, a separate permit is needed from the local police department for each handgun to be purchased and expires after 90 days. These, like the initial Firearms Identification card, require in-depth application questioning, multiple references and background checks via the State Bureau of Identification and New Jersey State Police. NJ law states that Firearms Identification approval and/or handgun purchase permit(s) must be issued within 30 days. Capacities of semiautomatic handguns and rifles (total in magazine excluding chamber) are limited to 15 rounds or less. N.J. Rev. Stat 2C:39-1y. New Jersey allows the purchase, possession and use of hollowpoint ammunition except in concert with any sort of criminal activity. New Jersey has its own ban on various semi-automatic firearms as well.[163] Police are bound by the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) in NJ and cannot own those firearms unless they are signed off by the Chief as used in an official capacity. They are exempt from the magazine limits when used in a duty/off duty firearm and approved by the department.

    It is the express policy of New Jersey legislative and law enforcement authorities that the carrying of a handgun on one's person be strictly limited only to those earning a living through the carrying of a handgun. Theoretically, there exists a route for a civilian to legally carry a handgun, but in reality, is practically nonexistent.

    Starting January 1, 2010, New Jersey limited handgun purchases to one per 30 day period.

    New Jersey: 417 murders, 1,208 rapes, 13,215 robberies, 16,079 assaults, 38,980 burglaries, 136,728 thefts, 27,683 auto thefts.

    hmmmmm
    Welcome to NJ the Garbage State (formerly Garden State)
    God so loved the world he gave his only son...
    Whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
    John 3:16

    W

  12. #11
    Member Array ZombieShoot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    South Florida
    Posts
    146
    Sounds more like a hit then a car jacking.

    Also not seeing where they offered any resistance.

  13. #12
    VIP Member Array xXxplosive's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,685
    Well, what ever it was the bottom line is practically no one in NJ can legally defend themselves on the street.....and for that matter there is no Castle Doctrine in the home either....you have the duty to retreat even in your own home.
    IMO, if the economy goes any further south, the crime rate in NJ could possibly skyrocket....we are all forced to be sheep here by our elected and appointed officials and there's really no chance for it to change in the near future. A haven for criminals.

  14. #13
    Member Array Judo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts
    54
    I work in NJ every week. If it was the last place on earth, I would never live there. Not a nice place. I think most people live there because they are not aware that there are much better places to live.

  15. #14
    VIP Member Array xXxplosive's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,685
    No.....they live here because you can make money here, then they retire and move. Meanwhile, it's not a safe place to live anymore, IMO. Only the criminal element can carry here obviously..

  16. #15
    Member Array 55spartan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    31
    When I take a crap I call it a Jersey.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Bad: Two Killed During Failed Carjacking, NJ
    By Hiram25 in forum Open Carry Issues & Discussions
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: April 5th, 2010, 07:22 AM
  2. BAD, Boxer Vernon Forrest killed in Carjacking.
    By PNUT in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: August 1st, 2009, 08:15 AM
  3. Bad: Good Samaritan Killed Trying to Help Carjacking Victim.
    By socal2310 in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: January 12th, 2009, 08:13 PM
  4. Bad: man killed in Wal-Mart carjacking, Denver
    By dkpeppard in forum In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: November 1st, 2008, 07:33 PM
  5. I Have Failed!!
    By Gunnutty in forum General Firearm Discussion
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: February 8th, 2006, 05:46 PM

Search tags for this page

armed new jersey guard gets carjacked

,

failed car jacking

,

killed in a failed carjacking

,

new jersey carjacking stats

Click on a term to search for related topics.