"F you and your high powered rifle!" The Gary Fadden incident - The Ayoob files

"F you and your high powered rifle!" The Gary Fadden incident - The Ayoob files

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    "F you and your high powered rifle!" The Gary Fadden incident - The Ayoob files

    "F you and your high powered rifle!" The Gary Fadden incident - The Ayoob files
    American Handgunner, March-April, 2004 by Massad Ayoob

    Situation: A road-rage incident escalates into a deadly pursuit.

    Lesson: Keep communications as handy as your gun. Bad guys fear resolutely armed people, not weapons. Remember that full auto can stop a fight--but start an indictment.

    It's amazing how often a criminal will say something unbelievably stupid just before he forces a decent citizen to kill him. For many years I've been piecing together a book subtitled "Famous Last Words of Scumbags." The working title will come from the most memorable such incident: "F*** You and Your Automatic Rifle!"

    The shooter was Gary Fadden. The incident took place some 20 years ago. Only now is Gary comfortable speaking of it, in hopes that others may learn from lessons that cost him very deeply.

    The Incident

    Sunday, February 24, 1984, approximately 2 PM. Gary Fadden, 26, and his lovely 22 year old fiancee are driving from a birthday party in Martinsburg, WV, into Virginia to look at some property for what they hope will be their starter home after their marriage. It's a bitterly cold day, and with the winter coats in the back of a new '84 Ford F-250 supercab 4WD diesel pickup, the Pendleton-clad Fadden looks from a distance like a harmless Yuppie. That means he and the pretty brunette look like prey to another kind of person.

    Heading east on Rt. 50, they are passed by a Harley-Davidson motorcycle with two people astride, the operator cutting in front of him so sharply that he has to brake suddenly. Gary comments to his fiancee how cold they must be riding a bike on a low 30s day, and that driving as carelessly as he is, the cyclist needs to worry about sudden patches of ice.

    A few minutes later, he spots a Chevy pickup in his rearview mirrors. It contains three people. One passenger is gesturing to him to pull over. Gary doesn't know what these scruffy guys want and he ignores them. But then he sees the passenger waving a knife, and the driver bringing up a revolver.

    Gary says to his fiancee, in what will probably be the understatement of his life, "We've got a bit of a problem here."...

    The full story can be found at http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...8/ai_112685749

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    Untill a year ago I lived right near where this happened and drove the same roads as described. It's pretty much in the middle of nowhere and aside from a rarely ever manned State Police weigh station there rarely ever are any police around aside from within Middleburg proper which on a Sunday morning is going to be just one or two cars toward what is a wide area. Had this gentleman not just happened to have legal defensive weapons on him as well as ability to think quick he and his GF would have most likely been toast.
    **** happens everywhere even in the otherwise quiet country where this occured.

    - Janq
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    "A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing


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    I've read that Article and the guy got a raw deal from the word Go.. if i remember Hk gave him a raw deal too

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    Yes Bud, and agreed.
    He's fortunate though that HK did anything for him at all.

    Even still he's out $45K for doing nothing more than defending his own life and that of his gf/fiance who otherwise were out minding their own damn business.
    Please excuse my language but this specific news item (which I'd not heard of prior to this morning) has me incensed. :(

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    "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy

    "A license to carry a concealed weapon does not make you a free-lance policeman." - Florida Div. of Licensing

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    i read it a couple years ago in the Mag yes it was a pretty crappy deal which unfortunately Anyone who probley shoots unless there is a castle doctrine low or something to that effect no retreat .. The person defending there life probley has this to look forward to..

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    Good article

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    Now that's a scary story. Don't know which is scarier, the chase or the legal aftermath.
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    Excellent read with good instruction! Thanks, Janq!

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    Compelling reading and one heck of a scary deal thru and thru.
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    Thanks for posting. It's a good reminder that a cell phone can be your most important "weapon".

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    Horrible story. Good reminder that the aftermath needs to be planned out in advance. You need to know before hand what you will do if you end up needing to use your weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkM
    It's a good reminder that a cell phone can be your most important "weapon".
    I would add to this that cell phones are good, but you still need to have your head about you. You must know where you are when using your cell. 911 doesn't always get a location. Also, you must keep calm (Yes, know that's easier said than done). When you yell into the phone, the voice is distorted and does not come out comprehensible on the other end. More than once calls have been delayed because we couldn't tell what the problem was until the person calling calmed enough to stop yelling into the phone.
    eschew obfuscation

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    Also , do not forget a vehicle can be a weapon. Consider smashing the front of the chase truck. 21 miles with no coolant at 90 MPH can sieze a motor quick. Also 4X4 gives you off road escape options someone chasing may not have. Finally , they get out w/ a gun, you should have justification to run em down.
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