Off-duty police officer kills man after dispute

Off-duty police officer kills man after dispute

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    The article is very long so I have only quoted a part of it.

    Off-duty Baltimore police officer shoots, kills man outside bar - baltimoresun.com

    Tyrone Brown, a 32-year-old former Marine from East Baltimore, was out with his sister and her friend enjoying the Mount Vernon club scene early Saturday when he may have taken one of his trademark jokes too far. Glancing at a woman in an alley off East Eager Street, he put his hands on her behind.

    Police said the woman's companion, an off-duty Baltimore police officer, got into an argument and physical confrontation with Brown after they left the club Eden's Lounge. His sister said there was no fight, and that her brother apologized and tried to walk away. What happened next is not in dispute the officer pulled out his department-issued Glock handgun and fired at the unarmed Brown 13 times from just a few feet away.

    Brown, struck at 1:30 a.m. by six bullets in the chest and groin, fell to the pavement and died 45 minutes later at Maryland Shock Trauma Center. The shooting by Gahiji A. Tshamba, a 15-year veteran of the city police force, has left his commanders publicly questioning whether the Eastern District patrol officer legitimately thought his life was in danger before firing.

    Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi, using unusually harsh language, said witnesses confirmed that Brown "groped the woman," but he also stressed that homicide detectives have "not been able to find a concrete motive" as to why Tshamba fired his weapon.

    Police commanders said privately that they were troubled by Saturday's shooting, which took place near a rear door of Club Hippo. It raised numerous questions, they said, including whether the officer had been drinking and was impaired when he fired his gun, and why he did not call for help from the many on-duty officers stationed nearby.

    Brown's father one of many relatives and friends who gathered Saturday at an East Baltimore rowhouse the victim shared with his mother said the shooting was unjustifiable. "He was in a situation where an apology should have been accepted," Reginald Dargan said. "It's a young kid gone for nothing. It don't make no sense."

    A department spokesman said Tshamba has been involved in at least one prior police-involved shooting. In 1998, he shot a man in the back during a foot chase, according to The Baltimore Sun's archives


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    Wow that cop is toast! Was there something else to this story or did he really shoot him for putting his hands on her butt? I understand a good but kicking but to unload on him is hard to believe. If this is how it really went down I'm glad this cop won't be patroling our streets anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoWeBePart1 View Post
    The article is very long so I have only quoted a part of it.

    Off-duty Baltimore police officer shoots, kills man outside bar - baltimoresun.com
    This is not going to go well for the copper! He fired 13 times?
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    fired at the unarmed Brown 13 times from just a few feet away....Brown, struck at 1:30 a.m. by six bullets in the chest and groin
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    Sounds like the LEO is in for some trouble...and if he was drinking it doesn't help him any
    when he may have taken one of his trademark jokes too far. Glancing at a woman in an alley off East Eager Street, he put his hands on her behind
    Trademark joke?? Feeling up some random girl while her boyfriend was with her...Sounds like he was looking for, at the very least, a confrontation
    Bad call on both parties

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    Someone PLEASE TAKE HIS GUN AND BADGE AWAY!

    I understand things can escalate quickly but I seriously doubt he needed to shoot at him...let alone 13 times!

    I really hope everything gets sorted out, wether the shooting was justified or not.
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    "Trademark joke"?
    13 shots?

    This is what happens when idiots collide.

    Sidebar: For those who continue the quest for the one-shot-stop holy grail cartridge, this guy took six rounds in the chest and groin and still hung on for 45 minutes. If it was a police-issue Glock, then we're probably looking at .40 or 9mm, both of which are legitimately lethal calibers. Placement, placement, placement.
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    Baltimore Crime Beat: Officer in nightclub shooting had earlier alcohol-related shooting - Baltimore, Maryland crime news, blogs and video - baltimoresun.com

    Apparently this officer previously shot someone while intoxicated in 2005.

    He shot another guy in the back in 1998 but that sounds like it was reasonably justified.

    The question I have is how he was allowed to "decline to take a breathalyzer" when this happened right outside a bar and he had a history of shooting while intoxicated.

    That said, the victim was an idiot. This is what should have happened..

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    I don't think some moron groping women he doesn't know is any kind of joke,and in most states could be charged with assault.That Cop better hope he ain't put in prison with anybody he arrested,not to mention the City getting hit with wrongful death lawsuit
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    Sad! Victim none too smart! I hope the cop was drunk, I'd hate to think he did this with all of his facilities working at the top of his game! I'd say his LEO days are over and he could be going away to camp for a very very long time!
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    Bubba is going to have a new girl(boy)friend to pimp when this is over.

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    Talk about a total lapse in judgement....by both parties I wouldn't be surprised if they were both heavily intoxicated. Alcohol makes people do stupid things as described above
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    Let's put this all together, alcohol, gun, bar, 1:30 A.M., in an alley, putting hands on strange women, arguments...headed downhill already...this is not going to end well for anyone.

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