Good and Bad: More Chicago Justice

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    Chicagoans aren't going to just lay down! Bad that he may face charges because of the ban though..

    Pawn shop owner kills would-be robber

    Pawn Shop Owner Kills Would-be Robber - WBBM 780 - Chicago's #1 source for local news, traffic and weather

    CHICAGO (STMW) -- For the third time in two weeks, a citizen has shot a bad guy in the city.

    A 23-year-old felon was shot to death as he tried to rob a Northwest Side pawnshop Tuesday afternoon.

    Michael McMillan, 23, of 309 N. Menard, was pronounced dead at Our Lady of the Resurrection Medical Center at 1:17 p.m., according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office.

    The slain suspect was convicted in 2006 of armed robbery and sentenced to boot camp, court records show.

    Police sources said the owner of Fullerton Pawners Inc. shot the robber at about 1 p.m. inside the store. Two accomplices, one wearing a black backpack, ran away. One may have been wounded, sources said.

    Police have recovered a revolver they believe the slain robber was wielding, sources said.

    Joseph Barats, president of the store at 5900 W. Fullerton Ave., declined comment. On a YouTube video, Barats said the store is family-owned. He took over the business about five years ago, he says in the video.

    “We have the nicest stuff,” he says. “We are like the real pawn stars. Every day something is happening here.”

    Police were reviewing video of the incident, taken from a surveillance camera in the store, sources said.

    Detectives also were interviewing witnesses Tuesday night to determine if any charges should be brought against the shooter — including charges involving the city’s handgun ban.

    The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule this month on the constitutionality of Chicago’s longstanding ban. Already, members of the gun lobby have pointed to two earlier incidents as reasons to lift it.

    On June 3, a 27-year-old South Austin man shot and wounded a man who jumped through the window of a home as he was running away from police officers during a drug bust. And on May 26, an 80-year-old Korean War veteran shot and killed a suspected burglar at his home in East Garfield Park. The veteran was robbed at gunpoint last year, his family said.

    Neither resident was charged with violating the handgun ban. In both instances, the slain robbers were convicted felons.
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    Sounds like the citizens of Chicago have done more to clean up the city in a couple weeks than the "gun ban" has done since it was instituted.
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    Thinning the herd, it would appear.

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    It's too bad the owner is likely to get in trouble for defending himself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by san antone rr View Post
    It's too bad the owner is likely to get in trouble for defending himself...
    I just don't understand it, your tried by a jury of your peers, are all the people of Chicago this dumb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    I just don't understand it, your tried by a jury of your peers, are all the people of Chicago this dumb?
    the jury will probably be instructed to concentrate on the fact that he knowingly was breaking the law before this incident...but I bet it will be a hung jury.
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    Charges weren't brought in the prior cases and I doubt they will be this time either - in spite of the Chicago Tribune's lamentations.

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    Once again the proof is in. Banning guns will not stop crime with guns. The thugs will obtain and use them no matter what type of ban is in effect.

    The decent people of Chicago seem to be a bit tired of the current situation and are just taking initive to lessen the amount of armed thugs even in the face of prosecution for protecting themselves.

    I say good shoot, shop owner. One down, many, many more to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctsketch View Post
    the jury will probably be instructed to concentrate on the fact that he knowingly was breaking the law before this incident...but I bet it will be a hung jury.


    Would be time for a big dose of "jury nullification", IMHO

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    why are they not worry about it here?

    In addition they couldn't get a conviction for bootlegging years ago. Gun bans are just another unreasonable "prohibition", IMHO.
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    The slain suspect was convicted in 2006 of armed robbery and sentenced to boot camp, court records show.
    Sentenced to boot camp for armed robbery?!

    I'm glad the owner is okay and hope that he will not be charged just as the others have not been.
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    Sentenced to boot camp for armed robbery?!
    he was a minor then? wait.... 23-4=19.... 0.o....shoudl be tried as an adult!
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    Wonderfully ironic...the dirtbag was pronounced dead at Our Lady of Resurrection Medical Center...
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Wonderfully ironic...the dirtbag was pronounced dead at Our Lady of Resurrection Medical Center...
    You got my vote for "Post of the Day!" Retsupt!
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    Another example that the people of Chicago are beginning to wake up! Daly may want to update his resume!
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    I agree with everyone on here. Things may be changing for Chicago.

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