19 fatally shot at drug rehab center in Mexico

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    19 fatally shot at drug rehab center in Mexico

    And the Mexican Auth. wonder why we are protecting our borders?
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    Ya think that just maaaaaaaaaaybe it was drug related??
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    Drug rehab is not good for drug sellers.
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    President Felipe Calderon, whose war on drugs has claimed nearly 23,000 lives since he took office in late 2006...
    Yeah, right. While I'm not the biggest fan of President Calderon, he certainly didn't start this "war," nor is he responsible for 23,000 deaths. That responsibility lies with the murdering narcotrafficantes themselves...
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    We need to get our border secured before this crap becomes a regular event on our side of the river!
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    I know this will be unpopular, but the United State's War on Drugs is what fuels Mexican drug cartel activities in the United States. It's illegal here. People demand it anyway. When there is a huge profit in breaking the law, the stakes go up. It's just like alcohol prohibition.

    Now, I'm not saying drugs are a good idea. But I will say two things. It would be disingenuous to suggest that Mexican drug cartels cause people in the United States to want drugs. (Please note I am not insinuating that anyone has said this.) And in a time when our government is in way over it's head financially maybe it would behoove people in the long run to allow more freedoms, not less.

    Someone has a sig line in one of these forums that says, "Pay attention, because every time a law is passed you lose a little bit more freedom." I don't think the fed has any more business passing drug laws than it did enacting prohibition. Now individual states; yes. If say state A wants legal drugs and neighboring state B does not; fine. I doubt very much if you would have as much drug violence if the druggies could just move someplace that would indulge them. Finding a state to volunteer might be tough, but whatever.

    I know it almost sounds like ending crime by declaring it legal, but there is a difference. Just like alcohol, no one has to use drugs. I don't even really like to take Tylenol or TheraFlu, but that's just me. But the actual drugs themselves are responsible for little of the violence. I'm sure some people do use drugs and then commit crimes under the influence; the same thing happens with alcohol. Anything that impairs your judgment does just that; it impairs your ability to make decisions. But the bulk of the violence, and I mean the vast majority, is involved in the trafficking and sale of said contraband.

    I just think it's manifestly clear that drug prohibition isn't doing any more to prevent drug use than prohibition prevented drinking. And that the criminal impact of the two are very similar. It just seems like a lot of time, money and lives wasted on trying to get people to make good life decisions. You just can't make people be smarter or better than they want to be. It's sad, but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WvHiker View Post

    Someone has a sig line in one of these forums that says, "Pay attention, because every time a law is passed you lose a little bit more freedom." I don't think the fed has any more business passing drug laws than it did enacting prohibition.
    Well it took a Constitutional amendment to achieve prohibition. So that at least was fully constitutional. I have not ever quite understood how it is that while such was needed to prohibit alcohol, it isn't also needed to prohibit the sale of other substances of abuse.

    I'm not taking sides here, especially not for the pro-drug side, but I don't comprehend the legal distinction.

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