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    The Associated Press: Toy soldiers run afoul of school's weapons ban

    Toy soldiers run afoul of school's weapons ban
    By MICHELLE R. SMITH (AP) – 2 hours ago

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. — Christan Morales says her son just wanted to honor American troops when he made a hat decorated with an American flag and small plastic Army figures.

    But the hat ran afoul of the district's no-weapons policy because the toy soldiers were carrying tiny weapons.

    "His teacher called and said it wasn't appropriate because it had guns," Morales said.

    Morales' 8-year-old son, David, was assigned to make a hat for the day when his second-grade class would met their pen pals from another school. She and her son came up with an idea to add patriotic decorations to a camouflage hat.

    Earlier this week, the Tiogue School in Coventry sent the hat home with David after class. He wore a plain baseball cap on the day of the visit instead.

    Superintendent Kenneth R. Di Pietro said the principal told the family that the hat would be fine if David replaced the Army men holding weapons with ones that didn't have any.

    "The issue for us was, can it be done in a way that didn't violate the zero-tolerance for weapons?" he said. "Nothing was being done to limit patriotism, creativity, other than find an alternative to a weapon."

    Di Pietro said the district does not allow images of weapons or drugs on clothing. For example, it would not allow a student to wear a shirt with a picture of a marijuana leaf on it.

    The principal "wasn't denying the patriotism," he said. "That just is the wrong and unfair image of one of our finest principals."

    Morales said her son was inspired to honor the military after striking up a friendship last summer with a neighbor in the Army.

    Banning the hat "sent the wrong message to the kids, because it wasn't in any way to cause any harm to anyone," she said. "You're talking about Army men. This wasn't about guns."

    The story was first reported by Providence TV station WPRI.
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    This is the problem with "zero tollerance" anything. The problem is, people are too lazy and/or scared of the liability that comes with applying sound judgement to a situation, and then having to back up that judgement. Instead, we are raising a generation with "zero tollerance" for good, common sense.
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    I'm a public-school educator, and I'm sad to say that this story doesn't surprise me one bit.

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    I saw this this morning, made my stomach sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSteve View Post
    This is the problem with "zero tollerance" anything. The problem is, people are too lazy and/or scared of the liability that comes with applying sound judgement to a situation, and then having to back up that judgement. Instead, we are raising a generation with "zero tollerance" for good, common sense.
    exactly.
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    Zero tolerance is the only defense against racial discrimination law suits. Any discretion is an opening to a showing of racial discrimination due to disparate impact.

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    You need an IQ near zero to administer a zero tolerance policy....
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    Crap like this makes me glad I don't have kids, I'd be livid at the school and their ridiculous policy.

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    It makes perfect sense to me. You can't have little green plastic men with guns in a school. Who knows, they could come alive and start shooting people. With a couple thousand shots they may be able to inflict the devastation of a bee sting.[/sarcasm]
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    thats a good point. the kid might drop the hat in water, find out that these soldiers are those little foam expanding toy things, so they get bigger so the guns are now a few inches, and since they are almost gun shape, they are obviously going to come to life and start shooting people *nods*
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    How about we tell Mr. Di Pietro what we think? I found his e-mail address on the Coventry Schools web page.

    You can reach him at: DiPietrK@ride.ri.net

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    Now now, don't be so hasty. We can resolve this by cutting the little plastic guns off of the toy American soldiers and call it Vietnam. Maybe that would be allowed.
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    TSA would not allow me to take a small set of my dad's toy soldiers (from approx 1920's) in a carry-on. In fact they recommended against putting them into the checked bag and suggested I mail them.

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