Federal Judge sends message to convicted straw purchasers

Federal Judge sends message to convicted straw purchasers

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    Federal Judge sends message to convicted straw purchasers

    A federal judge has sentenced three men who were part of a scheme to buy guns and send them to Mexico.

    Angel Zuniga, Jesus Gutierrez and Roel Gonzalez appeared before U.S. District Court Judge Hilda Tagle on Monday afternoon.

    The three men were jailed back in December when they were indicted for lying to buy high-weapons at gun stores and pawn shops across the Rio Grande Valley.

    Court records show that they turned the guns over to a man only identified as “Tavo," who would take the guns to the real buyers in Mexico.

    A plea agreement in Gutierrez's case showed "Tavo" didn't pay in cash but would pay all the expenses every time he and Gutierrez would go party.

    Judge Tagle sentence each fo the men to the following prison time

    Angel Zuniga, 6 months
    Jesus Gutierrez, 7 months
    Roel Gonzalez, 6 months

    Judge Tagle ordered that all three men to two years probation and substance abuse counseling following their release from prison.

    Both Zuniga and Gonzalez were allowed to remain free on bond until their prison assignments are made but Tagle ordered Gutierrez remain in custody.

    Wow that sentence is going to send a strong message to people trafficking in guns and ammo to Mexico....Go ahead and do it,if you get caught you will spend less than a year in prison
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    Sounds like time served if they were jailed in December!
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    Months should be changed to years and then maybe we'd have a deterrent.

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    REALLY cracking down on people illegal buying / sending guns to Mexico aren't they.

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    If they were Border Patrol they would have been given life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    If they were Border Patrol they would have been given life...
    If they were BP agents buying them for Mexican criminals, I'd want them in prison for life myself. The oath to support the laws of the US that they take is not a suggestion.
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    I've said it before, the gun violence issue is not one of gun ownership. It's an issue of useless, bleeding heart DA's and Judges. There will be no respect for the justice system or the laws of society if there are no consequences for breaking them.
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    Wow.

    Get caught with more than 8 ounces of weed and they nail your arse to the wall. Make an illegal transfer of weapons and get a slap on the wrist and 2 years of babysitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Wow that sentence is going to send a strong message to people trafficking in guns and ammo to Mexico....Go ahead and do it,if you get caught you will spend less than a year in prison
    Illegal weapons sales should be Years!!! not months!! people buy illegal weapons to do bad things usually
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    Some times I wonder about judges and DAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevew View Post
    Some times I wonder about judges and DAs.
    Same here
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    Wonder if the judge was compelled to follow a set of sentencing guidelines.

    Also, before everyone demands stiff penalties for straw purchases, look at all the numerous conversations here in which ordinary participants have struggled to make sure they weren't accidentally violating straw purchase laws when all they wanted to do was give someone a gift.

    In this case however, the sentence does seem too lenient, and I agree with those who say that when the criminal element engages in straw purchases they need very stiff penalties. There is indeed something wrong when illegal trafficing in guns has a more lenient penalty than illegal possession of a few ounces of a controlled substance or a few milligrams over some threshold on a controlled substance.

    Agree too with those who have said that no one engaged in illegal gun traffic is ever up to innocent activity. These are dangerous people doing dangerous things, and the sentence was too lenient.

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    Just wow, probably going to end up hearing

    "It happens, why punish the buyers"

    They should of gotten more time, wouldnt it be deemed a terrorist act in some way?
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    What happened to the Federal law with a fivr year prison sentance for any crime involving a gun????? I would think that selling guns illeagley would classify as a gun use crime.
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