July 4th, 2010 10:16 AM
Sounds like the LEO vacated the area until backup came. I think it would have been reasonable to shoot the guy trying to free the shooter. I'd hate to shoot the dog by accident but an active shooter takes priority. She should have been searched and maybe she was but also maybe she had the 40 well concealed in a certain part of the female anatomy that would certainly lead to a charge of sexual assault if a weapon were not found. Certain crevices are difficult to search in a cursory search over outer garments. Maybe LEOs should have hand held magnetometers for such issues.
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July 4th, 2010 11:53 AM
When I went through the reserve academy, it was emphasized to us over and over again that if you have cause to handcuff someone, you have more than enough justification to do a Terry pat-down. I could see the decision to delay the search until backup arrived if she was by herself and he was able to keep her under constant observation, but with two other subjects present...
Originally Posted by retsupt99
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July 5th, 2010 03:15 AM
I wondered that too.... and would not have been found in a cursory pat down. I've been told, not seen it personally, amazing places and ways females have hidden weapons. .. up to and including putting knives into their pulled up hair.
Originally Posted by paramedic70002
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July 5th, 2010 10:18 AM
I have a friend who lost his Job as a Deputy Sheriff just over that.
Originally Posted by Eagleks
He was assiged to transport a TDO patient from one "secure" faculty to another.
Picking up the patient from a "secure" medical faculty, he didn't do a search.
The patient later shot himself at the second "secure" mental faculty.
It all fell on the Deputy -- lost job, sued by the family of the patient, etc -- albeit the actual shooting/death didn't occur while in his custody.
Never heard of any repocussions for the failed "security" at the first or second faculty.
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