This is a discussion on Phony search warrant used in home invasion within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Not US, but this is taking impersonating an LEO to a new level. The suspects demanded to search a home on Coral Shores Landing N.E. ...
Not US, but this is taking impersonating an LEO to a new level.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...#ixzz0x9hZYg1HThe suspects demanded to search a home on Coral Shores Landing N.E. for hidden money, showing the occupants some government ID as well as a badge resembling one carried by law enforcement.
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I don't open the door.
quote from article:
"The public should carefully check the ID of someone claiming to be a law enforcement officer or call 911 to have it confirmed, advised police."
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I agree with you. Hopefully they will find them very soon, because I believe that if those guys were able do something like that they are able to do whatever.Originally Posted by DaveH
Not US, but this is taking impersonating an LEO to a new level.
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If the police show up at my door I meet them on the porch W/ the door closed behind me. If they are not uniformed I request a uniformed officer in a marked car. And I decline all requests to search. IOW this wouldn't have happened at my house.
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Having been arrested before, I can tell you that cops will make you put the phone down. They don't want you talking on the phone, even if you're calling 911 to validate their ids.
This does not work in the real world.
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Yes it does, at least in Co Springs it is official policy. If you have any doubt they want you to call in and have said so publically several times
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Down here a lot of home invasions are usually stash houses for drugs,so when you got a buncha guys in fake uniforms coming thru the door like a swat team,you either give up or shoot it out,if you guess right and they are thugs you still have to deal with the drug charges etc.,guess wrong and kill a cop and your getting the death penalty,I don't have any reason why my house would be targeted for a search warrant,therefore I will open fire on anybody entering my home uninvited.
PS my doors are always locked so nobody is just gonna accidently walk in
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These are tough scenarios because the victim has no clear way to know what the h is going on.
I once had a guy at my door claiming to be a Federal Agent and flashing fancy ID. I thought he was bogus and ran him off. Found out later he was the real deal. Happily no harm done though we almost had it out at the door.
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How many people have the chance to "call it in and verify" when a SWAT team is serving a warrant? The courts have given the police as little as 20 seconds to wait prior to "dynamic entry." Anyone who shoots at a SWAT team (or any other LEO serving a warrant) is going to 1) Get killed very quickly 2) Go to jail for a very long time if #1 doesn't happen. If there were no such things as dynamic entry raids, then of course, you would have to time to call it in and you would also know that anyone kicking in your door is most definitely not LE. But, since they do exist, and they don't seem to be going away anytime soon, then all I can say is good luck if something like this ever happens to you.
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I don't open the door to people I don't know. If somebody wants to legally search my house they are welcome to it. But if somebody wants to storm my house without notifying me first, they'll be met with a shotgun. If they're stupid cops who got the wrong address, then we'll both be dead.
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Try it. They will make you put the phone down. Guaranteed.
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I think if you let the LEO know that you are on the phone with 911 to verify them, they will believe you.
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Depending on area, I wouldn't bet on it, or that they care.
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Is this based on experience? according to the OP we're not talking about a No Knock Warrant we're talking about a plain clothes cop that knocks on your door and asks to execute a search warrant
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Not trying to be a smart aleck, but does that happen? I truly don't know. Do individual plain clothes cops knock on doors to execute a search warrant?
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