Bad, Officer kills one, puts another in coma while DUI on duty

Bad, Officer kills one, puts another in coma while DUI on duty

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    Bad, Officer kills one, puts another in coma while DUI on duty

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    and another DUI officer, a week later

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    Usually the detectives and especially DUI officers know every aspect of collecting blood for court cases,seems kinda funny this Officers sample was taken by a lab tech that didn't have the credentials needed,I guess after the criminal case and the lawsuit for wrongful death Bisard will be looking for a new line of work
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    It didn't smell like alcohol...it smelled 'fishy'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Usually the detectives and especially DUI officers know every aspect of collecting blood for court cases,seems kinda funny this Officers sample was taken by a lab tech that didn't have the credentials needed,I guess after the criminal case and the lawsuit for wrongful death Bisard will be looking for a new line of work
    It probably had nothing to do with the collection of blood itself, but more with the chain of evidence and storage proceedure. It is very easy to get a false reading if the sample is not stored correctly; for example, if the blood get to warm, it will give a false indication of alcohol being present.
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    Indy's PD has had a string of problems with questionable procedure applied recently. I would not be surprised to see a shake up at the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    It probably had nothing to do with the collection of blood itself, but more with the chain of evidence and storage proceedure. It is very easy to get a false reading if the sample is not stored correctly; for example, if the blood get to warm, it will give a false indication of alcohol being present.
    Could it have been purposefully "mishandled" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctsketch View Post
    Could it have been purposefully "mishandled" ?
    Sure. Thats a double edged sword. Who knows which side of the fence the responsibly party was on... or it could have been an honest mistake too. Who knows.

    Indy has been going through some nasty "growing pains" as they have merged two huge agencies into one a few years ago. There was IPD and the Marion S.O. They merged into one, making one huge metro police department. One could only imagine the problems that causes in the short term.
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    Not to support the officer, who was allegedly DUI, but I disagree with the opinion of the motorcyclist which plainly goes counter to the states law as cited...And what is common in many if not most states and generally taught as proper method by driving instructors.

    When an emergency vehicle is approaching (from any direction) you are to get your vehicle over as close to the right lane outer edge of possible.
    Even go off the road if allowable and safe. Activate your hazards to indicate your position as being stopped/not moving to traffic in general and approaching emergency vehicles.
    This not a courtesy item...It is a safety item both for ones self as well as that of traffic AND the approaching emergency vehicles.

    If in the middle lane as described or even far right lane one should attempt to _immediately_ move themself to the right IF doing so is safe in the immediate.
    Myself I've been in the exact same scenario as these guys boxed in as they describe. What I would have done and have done is think to IMMEDIATELY remove myself from the path of the oncoming vehicle, most often doing so at high speed (!).
    I'd get in the left lane and _make_ a left turn and there put myself into the right most lane or off-road. This removes myself from the path of the oncoming vehicle. I don't care if I have to turn around and lose ~2m out of my life in travel time. Atleast I'm still alive.

    If no left turn option is available, then go around the vehicle stopped and blocking you forward to again get out of the way.
    As cyclists it should have occurred to them to split the lane on their right and move forward and over to the right cutting in front of the other stopped vehicles.

    IRL I see this emergency vehicle item occur often and people do just come to a complete stop in the road, anywhere!, even when there is clear time and space to get over to the right. This is wrong and even in cases very unsafe for all persons involved including the oncoming vehicle.

    Do not do this.

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