$400,000 fine for carrying in airport

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    $400,000 fine for carrying in airport

    There's no cure for "Stupid." This is what happens when you carry in an airport - as long as you're famous.... The rest of us would probably end up in jail.

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    Maybe he was on his way to visit Plaxico Burris.

    Seriously, I wonder if he was catching a team charter or just a regular commercial flight. Not that it matters legally, but often the charters don't go through security.

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    he carried a concealed weapon through security at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport.
    Rogers was arrested at the airport after a .45- caliber loaded handgun was found in his luggage.
    Which was it? Can't be both!! One can't carry concealed through security & at the same time have the same firearm packed in luggage, whether the luggage was checked, or carry-on being scanned through the security check point.

    Kinda like an AK-47 automatic Glock 1911 semi-auto revolver assault AR-15 shotgun rifle thing. Just can't quite get the facts right ... and they wonder why their mainstream media business is on the delcine.
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    Typical, had it been one of us commoners instead a sports god it would have been jail time plus fine.
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    Q: Across the country, does anyone know what the statistics are for folks caught carrying a loaded firearm into the secure airport areas, in terms of the average penalty or punishment? I have no idea whether community service and retraining in a CHL class is typical, or whether jail and fines are the norm.

    Rogers entered a diversion program and avoided trial in a deal with the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court. The charge was to be dismissed upon Rogers' completion of the program, which included volunteer service and 10 hours in a gun class.
    Interesting that the details of the "diversion" involved in his volunteer "service" was glossed over, unspecified. You sure don't hear the "Sunshine Week" folks whining to get these details made public.
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    Which was it? Can't be both!! One can't carry concealed through security & at the same time have the same firearm packed in luggage, whether the luggage was checked, or carry-on being scanned through the security check point.

    Kinda like an AK-47 automatic Glock 1911 revolver AR-15 assault rifle thing. Just can't quite get the facts right ... and they wonder why their mainstream media business is on the delcine.

    Agreed, bad slant by the media.

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    Actually, this brings up a question that I have been looking for clarification on for a while...

    FL Law says that you may not carry, or posess on or about your person, a firearm in the "Sterile area" of an airport. Does that mean that if I am, say, waiting to pick up a friend who is coming in for vacation, I can keep my firearmn with me and have no fear of breaking the law? (ie. I can take it in, just not past security)
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Typical, had it been one of us commoners instead a sports god it would have been jail time plus fine.
    Not necessarily...
    A doctor I know, unknowingly carried a .22 pistol in his luggage into the airport...found at the screening table. After a 4 hour interview with the FBI and $3,000 in fines, it was over...and no jail time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCWFlaRuger View Post
    FL Law says that you may not carry, or posess on or about your person, a firearm in the "Sterile area" of an airport. Does that mean that if I am, say, waiting to pick up a friend who is coming in for vacation, I can keep my firearmn with me and have no fear of breaking the law? (ie. I can take it in, just not past security)
    I would say yes. There is no way to see your firearm until you get to the TSA checkpoint.

    I think airports discourage that, and I'm not a lawyer, but how would anyone know?
    Of course if you let it show, you will make a lot of new friends quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCWFlaRuger View Post
    Actually, this brings up a question that I have been looking for clarification on for a while...

    FL Law says that you may not carry, or posess on or about your person, a firearm in the "Sterile area" of an airport. Does that mean that if I am, say, waiting to pick up a friend who is coming in for vacation, I can keep my firearmn with me and have no fear of breaking the law? (ie. I can take it in, just not past security)
    Not the way I read the law. The actual section of FS 790.06(12) says "inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft;"

    "Inside the passenger terminal" means, IMHO, precisely that. Anywhere inside the passenger terminal - waiting areas, ticketing desks, car rental counters, baggage claim - all of it is "inside the passenger terminal" and is therefore prohibited.

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    Varies by state. TX allows CC at airports outside of secured areas. I CC almost daily at local airports, baggage claim & ticketing areas, just not through security into the secured gate area ... obviously.

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    (5) in or into a secured area of an airport.
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    (2) "Secured area" means an area of an airport terminal building
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Not the way I read the law. "Inside the passenger terminal" means, IMHO, precisely that. Anywhere inside the passenger terminal - waiting areas, ticketing desks, car rental counters, baggage claim - all of it is "inside the passenger terminal" and is therefore prohibited.
    I believe this has been hashed out already. The key is "passenger terminal", and that has been defined as the area where you wait to board an aircraft.
    I.E. the sterile area. It does not include the ticket counter, gift shop, parking lot, baggage claim. etc.

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    Here's what I don't get. Either they were flying commercial, or "rented" a commercial plane. TSA does not check private flights. I have a buddy that flies a private business jet. According to him, you drive up to the plane and load your stuff on it. No TSA. Or I'm missing something.
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    The terminal is past the security gate...everything before that is lobby.
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    "The charge was to be dismissed upon Rogers' completion of the program, . . . " and deposit of that there 'game check' don't ya know!!
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