How Can They Not Reach A Decision?

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    How Can They Not Reach A Decision?

    http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2...7265915110.txt

    So the murder case against one of the Petit family muderers is in the hand of the jurors today and they failed to reach a decision and will continue tomorrow. I can't imagine they will need a lot of time to reach a verdict.
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    There is a great variety of folks that juries are picked from and they have like sixteen counts to decide on.

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    If I were on that jury, I'd be ready to vote about five minutes after we got back into the jury room.
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    As I understand it it looks like they are trying to figure out which BG did what to arrive at the proper verdict. That could take some time. Part of what they are deciding is who, if anyone, gets the needle.
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    Guilty on 16 of 17 counts

    The jury found Hayes not guilty on a first degree arson charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctsketch View Post
    The jury found Hayes not guilty on a first degree arson charge
    Yah, I saw on the news last night that the jury asked the judge if pouring the gasoline constituted arson. The judge said 'no'. I guess that charge gets saved for the dirtbag that lit the match?

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    I think that due to the enormous publicity surrounding this trial, the jury had to make a good show of it. Also, given that they had 17 counts to consider individually, I'm not surprised the deliberations went into a second day. The biggest debate was probably over the arson charge, the only "not guilty" verdict.

    A buncha years ago I testified in a murder trial in Litchfield County (CT). Although I was unfortunately a defense witness, I stayed in close touch with the State Trooper who was in charge of the case. He said the jury didn't even sit down before they arrived at a guilty verdict, but they stayed in the jury room for 45 minutes to make it look good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    Yah, I saw on the news last night that the jury asked the judge if pouring the gasoline constituted arson. The judge said 'no'. I guess that charge gets saved for the dirtbag that lit the match?

    Grrrrrr.....
    So assisting directly with the crime of arson does not constitute arson? Well, I guess i'll go plant a bomb somewhere, as long as someone else pulls the trigger I am not responsible for blowing up anything!
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    It's the lawyers.... They put the "spin" on the facts... They learn how to distort the evidence and confuse the "ordinary" jurors ! There should be ONE question:

    Did A cause the death of B... really pretty simple

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    So if its legal to use deadly force to stop arson, if the guy is pouring gas around your house with you in it and you stop the threat via your firearm your not justified? Even if he isn't the one going to light the match?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyColby View Post
    So if its legal to use deadly force to stop arson, if the guy is pouring gas around your house with you in it and you stop the threat via your firearm your not justified? Even if he isn't the one going to light the match?
    In Connecticut, you are indeed justified in using deadly force to stop an arsonist about to burn your house.

    In the Petit case under discussion in this thread, that was NOT the situation.
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    I am definitely glad the jury came back relatively quickly with the verdict, and I don't see it as a big deal that he was not convicted on the arson charge. About the only that chaps my backside is how long this scumbag will be sitting on death row before getting the needle. Dr. Petit deserves closure sooner than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    If I were on that jury, I'd be ready to vote about five minutes after we got back into the jury room.
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