"How can New Jersey imprison a gun owner who broke no laws?"

"How can New Jersey imprison a gun owner who broke no laws?"

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    "How can New Jersey imprison a gun owner who broke no laws?"

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    Holy crap.... It's astounding that the judge could get away with this. And why has he not had an appeal yet? This is absolutely absurd. In my opinion he and the judge should trade residences.
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    Pitiful.

    The judge ought to be thrown in prison.

    The jurors were ignorant of the law.

    This is another case for Jury Nullification...the final check and balance for such abuse.
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    Sounds like a Judge that needs to have his license to practice law revoked.This is the kinda crap that makes me mad as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
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    Why hasn't the Judge's decision been overturned by a higher authority in NJ? They can't all be as bad or as self-minded at this idiot!
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    Just another reason to NEVER set foot in Jersey!

    Seven years in jail, how do you get over that? That is seven years and counting.

    Outrageous!
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    The jury returned from deliberation three times practically begging the Judge to tell them the law that protects an individuals rights to transport firearms—the Judge outright refused to tell them!

    The judge was certainly wrong for what he did BUT the jury had the last word and they could have found him not guilty since they didn't have all the information to convict him. The jury is just as guilty the judge.
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    I wonder if this is the entire story. I live in NJ and thought it is illegal to poses a firearm in the state without a valid NJ FID. I agree he could legally drive through the state under the federal statue, but he was clearly staying in NJ.

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    He got seven years because his mother involved the police. Take care of your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    The judge was certainly wrong for what he did BUT the jury had the last word and they could have found him not guilty since they didn't have all the information to convict him. The jury is just as guilty the judge.
    I disagree. Juries aren't educated and certainly not lawyers. Most jurors are pretty ignorant (not a slam against jurors, but rather the complicated mess of laws we have), and at the mercy of a judge to let them know what their choices are. Most people have never heard of jury nullification (btw, that's the one "N" word that'll get you kicked off most jury selection pools), so you can't fault the jury in this case.
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    Holly crap! This is way too much to be true

    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Pitiful.

    The judge ought to be thrown in prison.

    The jurors were ignorant of the law.

    This is another case for Jury Nullification...the final check and balance for such abuse.
    If what the article says is true then I totally agree with you.

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    Why hasn't the Judge's decision been overturned by a higher authority in NJ? They can't all be as bad or as self-minded at this idiot!
    Very good question. I wonder if there is something else behind this mess.
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    If I was him and I got set free, I would also sue the state for keeping here and making me lose my income because of that false imprisonment. No innocent man should go through that kind of ordeal.
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    The Governor needs to just issue a pardon to Brian Aitken and be done with it. Oh' and that piece of crap judge shouldn't be a judge anymore.
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    I agree with everyone else here in that the Judge was "WAY" out of line and there should be some sort of penalty for judges that overstep their bounds like this. If I were this guy, I'd be really pissed.
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    One reason why some people might want to rethink their little mantra of blisfull ignorance ... "better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6"

    It still may be true, and in other situations involving conflict, living in jail is better than being dead. But this might make you think a little harder about using that as your justification for ignoring gun and self-defense laws.
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