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This is a discussion on Good: Woman shoots 2 home intruders, one fatally. within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; This is an excerpt of what we call "make my day" legislation which governs the mentioned incident: A. The Legislature hereby recognizes that the citizens ...

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    C'mon, Make my day

    This is an excerpt of what we call "make my day" legislation which governs the mentioned incident:

    A. The Legislature hereby recognizes that the citizens of the State of Oklahoma have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.

    B. A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

    1. The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against the will of that person from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and

    2. The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

    C. The presumption set forth in subsection B of this section does not apply if:

    1. The person against whom the defensive force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not a protective order from domestic violence in effect or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;

    2. The person or persons sought to be removed are children or grandchildren, or are otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used; or

    3. The person who uses defensive force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle to further an unlawful activity.

    D. A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

    E. A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle of another person is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.

    F. A person who uses force, as permitted pursuant to the provisions of subsections B and D of this section, is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force. As used in this subsection, the term "criminal prosecution" includes charging or prosecuting the defendant.

    G. A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force, but the law enforcement agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

    H. The court shall award reasonable attorney fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection F of this section.

    I. The provisions of this section and the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, Sections 1290.1 through 1290.26 of this title, shall not be construed to require any person using a pistol pursuant to the provisions of this section to be licensed in any manner.

    J. As used in this section:

    1. "Dwelling" means a building or conveyance of any kind, including any attached porch, whether the building or conveyance is temporary or permanent, mobile or immobile, which has a roof over it, including a tent, and is designed to be occupied by people;

    2. "Residence" means a dwelling in which a person resides either temporarily or permanently or is visiting as an invited guest; and

    3. "Vehicle" means a conveyance of any kind, whether or not motorized, which is designed to transport people or property.


    The law is clear, and simple.
    The message to the would be bandits is clear:

    Don't be trying to be breaking into people's homes, unless you want to be on life's clearance section

    Live long, live free, Gatopardo
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Protected herself and her 2 children.

    She probably shouldn't have called her husband first... but 911. By all appearances, after investigation, no charges will be filed.
    I have no problem with her calling her husband first.....I would hope my wife would do the same. You never know how the 911 operator would have handled it , once she called 911. The 911 operator may have kept her on the line until police arrived. Then who knows how long until she would have been allowed to call him. Her responsibility is family first.
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    Glad the lady and her children are OK. Too bad the second scum bag is still wasting oxygen.

    The best outcome at this point will be for the state of OK to prosecute the two remaining scum bags as adult scum bags and lock them away for life with no parole.

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    Glad the story had half a happy ending. The other half, I can only hope that we get good news from the hospital.

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    The DA has charged the two surviving perps with murder. Under OK law anyone who participated in the crime can be charged with murder if one of the participants in the crime is killed by a LEO or citizen.

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