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    Very sad, a man defending his life and the life of his daughter is in jail instead of being home with his family where he belongs. I can only pray the jury has enough sense to release this man with loss of wages and give him a medal!! Unless there is more to this story than we know from this post, and there may be!!
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    It pains me to "see" the land of my parents and family go to hell...thanks to drugs, overpopulation, unemployment, the criminal "coolness" factor and/or whatever other factors are causing people to get criminally stupid....I moved to PR (from NYC) in 1981 and remembered that it was still a nice place.

    The "introduction" of crack cocaine and the cocaine wars of the 80's caused the island (especially the southern coastal towns and the greater San Juan municipal areas) to explode in violence since PR is a major transshipment route from narcotics producing countries in South America. Seeing major drug busts at the LMM Airport in Isla Verde, in the caserios (low income housing projects), and in and around PR was (is) commonplace.

    Many places in PR are now an armpit and I certainly would not be caught dead without a firearm. When I visited my family this Christmas, I went everywhere (except to the Muniz ANG base) with my duty weapon.
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    February 5, 2007 - A 60 year old security guard shot and killed one in a failed attempt to take the security guard's firearm, a 38spl revolver. The security guard apparently didn't have a "State Permit to Carry Firearms", however it appears he wasn't arrested but cited to give a statement the following day.

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    What a shame.

    Quote Originally Posted by srfl View Post
    It pains me to "see" the land of my parents and family go to hell...thanks to drugs, overpopulation, unemployment, the criminal "coolness" factor and/or whatever other factors are causing people to get criminally stupid....I moved to PR (from NYC) in 1981 and remembered that it was still a nice place.

    The "introduction" of crack cocaine and the cocaine wars of the 80's caused the island (especially the southern coastal towns and the greater San Juan municipal areas) to explode in violence since PR is a major transshipment route from narcotics producing countries in South America. Seeing major drug busts at the LMM Airport in Isla Verde, in the caserios (low income housing projects), and in and around PR was (is) commonplace.

    Many places in PR are now an armpit and I certainly would not be caught dead without a firearm. When I visited my family this Christmas, I went everywhere (except to the Muniz ANG base) with my duty weapon.
    Yes, it is a shame. I lived there for a while in '91. Some areas were off limts to the wise then, but where I stayed was pretty nice. I worked on the Naval base for a civilian contractor as a pipefitter/welder. I was still USMCR, and when the owner of the company's clearance ran out, I had to escort him on the base as my guest since I had a mil. ID. How ironic.

    Anyway, I have heard that it has really gone down hill. Too bad.

    Hey cagueits, take care down there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srfl View Post
    It pains me to "see" the land of my parents and family go to hell...thanks to drugs, overpopulation, unemployment, the criminal "coolness" factor and/or whatever other factors are causing people to get criminally stupid....I moved to PR (from NYC) in 1981 and remembered that it was still a nice place.

    The "introduction" of crack cocaine and the cocaine wars of the 80's caused the island (especially the southern coastal towns and the greater San Juan municipal areas) to explode in violence since PR is a major transshipment route from narcotics producing countries in South America. Seeing major drug busts at the LMM Airport in Isla Verde, in the caserios (low income housing projects), and in and around PR was (is) commonplace.

    Many places in PR are now an armpit and I certainly would not be caught dead without a firearm. When I visited my family this Christmas, I went everywhere (except to the Muniz ANG base) with my duty weapon.
    While I mean no disrespect I feel the need to jump...slightly off topic...It pains me every time I see someone use drugs and unemployment as an excuse for someone or some people's actions. Drugs and unemployment are a choice...Sorry I mean no disrespect, but I tend to not like laying blame where it doesn't belong. Drugs are no different from cars or firearms. People choose to use them or not. The same with unemployment. Unemployment occurs usually from one of two things...either a physical disability that literally leaves a person unable to work, or a lack of will to work. I do however, hope your family stays well...maybe they could try to move to the US(although these days...we're headed down the road to join them in the near future)?

    What's the difference between people in DC or the Bronx that either stay in the slum they start out in, or rise to the occassion and make it to the top? Why is it that one man that starts out life in the slums of our country can choose to ignore those sheep around him/her and choose to work they're way through a community college(or even better in some cases), and then move on to a "white collar" job unlike the rest of their brethren that continue to stay in place and lay blame on drugs, gangs, overpopulation, lack of government help and any other myriad of options to lay blame on? The difference is choice.

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    Packinnova....don't make the mistake of confusing what I had to say in my post; you are jumping to conclusions by thinking that I lay the blame on an inanimate substance like narcotics for the explosion of violence in PR; please, I'm not that naive and you don't know me to assume that I am.

    I am originally from the projects of Harlem, NY and lived in crappy areas of PR; I certainly could have been like many I grew up with and "experimented" with drugs, sold them, or abused them. Instead, I became a commissioned USAF officer and federal LEO....so I do think I know about choice.
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    Sometimes the choice is just not there. If you grow up in the projects of the island, your choices could range from "you keep drugs for the druglord in your house and you live" or "you are a good citizen and you end up inside a dumpster full of lead", it really varies by who is in charge of the gang who runs that specific project.

    People do make it out, but there are very few. Most people in the projects don't care to become law abbiding citizens as they feel betrayed by the local police - who is so corrupted that it doesn't even patrol the projects, so turning their backs (the residents of the projects) to the druglord will be the last mistake they make.

    A serious problem becomes even worst when politics get involved. The island has 3 mayor political parties, one pro-statehood, another that favors a commonwealth, and finally one that wants to break ties with the US. So, to make a story short crime is a problem on election years and doesn't become a problem again unless there can be some political gain by those in power or those who want to be in power.

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