TSA gives citizen a rough time in San Diego...

TSA gives citizen a rough time in San Diego...

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    TSA gives citizen a rough time in San Diego...

    This made me mad.
    I didn't see this posted anywhere else.... This is unbelievable. Well, actually its very believable.
    I would have done the same thing as this guy, accept I would have called my lawyer and made it very clear I was videoing the whole thing.

    http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/...y-between.html

    What do ya think? (I think this is the correct place to post this. Sorry if I got it wrong!)


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    I guess we don't really believe in "Live Free or Die" in this country.
    We're all in favor of reducing violent crime. It's just that pro-gunners have a method that is proven effective. Anti-gunners don't.
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    TSA Opt-Out Day, Now with a Superfantastic New Twist!

    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...w-twist/66545/

    A kilt would be cool anyway!
    We're all in favor of reducing violent crime. It's just that pro-gunners have a method that is proven effective. Anti-gunners don't.
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    Sounds like a mountain out of a mole hill to me.
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    This sounds unbelievable because I think it is. First thing, TSA is a federal agency and part of the Dept of Homeland Security. They don't work for the San Diego Airport. Second, the federal government does not sue individuals. Even if they did, it would not be in a Civil Court, It would be in A Federal District Court. Also, I believe it is illegal to video and audio tape as he claims however I think it was faked, I don't know of phones with that type of audio and video but I may be mistaken about that. The Audio seems to have been altered in an amateur way. I just don't buy this story.
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    So far as I am concerned, TSA is not the most respectful in the world. Right after 9-1-1, my wife and I were bound for NYC, and during a plane change in Chicago, someone committed a breach of security. EVERYONE in the airport had to exit outdoors, then re-enter, and go thru security again.
    While waiting in the extra extra long slow moving line, and our plane was over-due to leave, nevertheless a couple of the TSA goons were watching the X-Ray screens. Something must have tripped their funny bone, since they stopped the belt, and ran back and forth something under the X-Ray, and pointed and laughed, and called more to look at it. Needless to say, my opinions of them dropped to rock bottom, and has never budged since then.

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    Good job to the video taker in standing up for himself. I don't fly anymore , so I personally couldn't care less about airlines, airports, TSA etc. But, if this guy felt wronged or unjustly treated..then he had a right to stand up for himself. His doing so resulted in his being refused to fly. If the result was worth it to him, I say kudos to him.

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    I never get run through for the scan thing. I would probably make an innuendo and get in trouble. so itís probably good I have not.

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    All the people with children out there, you have to wonder about kids being sent through those scanners. They will render naked images of the children, creating kiddie porn, in effect.

    And, every freak and twisted weirdo and pedophile in the country is probably trying like crazy to get a TSA job now so they can be gropers or screeners - getting paid to get their jollies off.

    Heckuva choice, isn't it? Your kid will either get photographed naked, or physically molested.
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    There's a lot of hype surrounding the millimetric wave imagers. They don't produce naked photos.

    From reading this guy's account, it seems to me that he went to the airport looking for a conflict, and found one.

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    The TSA has released sample images from the L3 machines, just as they are viewed by the TSA screener:


    http://blog.tsa.gov/2008/05/you-aske...illimeter.html

    Clearly not "vivid naked pictures". Honestly, if someone sees anything pornographic in these images, it is because they want to.

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    MattinFla: They are too close for comfort. I'm with Shockwave on this issue.

    I had hoped that Napolitano would bring a sense of responsibility and respect for the public to the TSA. She hasn't. They keep thumbing their noses at the traveling public. A complete house cleaning is needed starting at the top; not with the little guys on line who are just doing what they are told.

    After 9 years the existing system seems to work reasonably well but could be improved to make things more pleasant for the traveler. The big expensive scanners will be white elephants before you know it. It is estimated that it takes 3 minutes and two workers to scan each passenger. Compare that with 2 seconds a one worker with the traditional magnetometer. It just isn't going to work. The use of fingers and touching of breasts and genitals during pat downs is going to anger everyone who goes through it and result in suits and accusations of criminal assault. And of course, there will be images of both young adult ladies and children which will get distributed on the net. I personally disbelieve everything TSA has said on image quality, protection of privacy, not recording the images, etc. There has been too much contradictory information getting out to accept their word on the matter.

    Personally, I think TSA has improved greatly in recent years. My last trip two weeks ago went very very smoothly. The folks who run the TSA screening in my community really do a very very nice job and are about the only ones that actually seem to get it right. But, even in Phila., things ran smoothly.

    Where does the fault lie. CONGRESS AND PRECEDING CONGRESSES and to a lesser extent a judiciary which lets The Executive get away with almost anything as a general matter. They both should have put their foot down on Michael Chertoff and Tom Ridge right out the gate, and they should have done it when members of Congress were themselves put on no-fly lists. That by itself, should have given Congress sufficient reason to do some serious oversight of the program.

    (I read recently that the TSA no-fly list was whittled down to a mere 16000 names, mostly foreigners now, so at least there has been some improvement on that score.)

    We are all running too scared for our own good.

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    Since this is a family forum I would state my true opinion of this guy. He went to the airport with an attitude and he found problems. Who would have thunk it!

    Come on..."If you touch my junk I will have you arrested" I have never seen anyone get pleasure from doing a pat down. Personally I have done a few thousand of them.

    He wants to dictate what level of security check he gets????? Really!! I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevem174 View Post
    Since this is a family forum I would state my true opinion of this guy. He went to the airport with an attitude and he found problems. Who would have thunk it!

    Come on..."If you touch my junk I will have you arrested" I have never seen anyone get pleasure from doing a pat down. Personally I have done a few thousand of them.

    He wants to dictate what level of security check he gets????? Really!! I don't think so.
    While this individual did seem to go looking for trouble, and while you are right that he doesn't get to dictate the level of screening, it is now long past time that we the traveling public get some relief from what is clearly an abusive approach to things. It is excessively expensive, excessively intrusive, excessively invasive, and it is only a matter of time till kiddy images end up on the internet from this nonsense, or till some pervert of an agent feels up a 10-16 year old girl. You know it is going to happen. You can see it coming. Murphy's law will operate.

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