UGLY: ABC Pushes New "Gun Control" Documentary
This is a discussion on UGLY: ABC Pushes New "Gun Control" Documentary within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; ABC is pushing a new Brady Bunch documentary and have the gall to suggest the group isn't "anti-gun!"
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20101227121010.aspx
What a bunch of maroons. The ...
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December 27th, 2010 01:01 PM
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December 27th, 2010 01:01 PM
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December 27th, 2010 02:38 PM
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
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December 27th, 2010 02:54 PM
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I don't think there should be any standards at all. Standards are overated.
Right now, if you want to buy a firearm, the Government can tell you NO.
For what reason? There dosent have to be one.
Heres a fact that few people know. The National Check System was down on the day after Thanksgiving, so most gun shops lost sales on the biggest shopping day of the year. They couldnt sell guns because the system (NICS) was down. For what reason? It dosent matter.
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December 27th, 2010 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
Why? Are you saying individuals should not be allowed to sell guns without government approval?
How about selling a car? Is it the individuals responsiblity to make sure the man has no dui's in his past or maybe a reckless driving charge? What about a camera, should we have to check to make sure that he hasn't misused one before? Where is this garbage going to end?
We will be much better off when we learn to deal with things as they really are, instead of how we wish them to be!
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December 27th, 2010 04:35 PM
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
There isn't much evidence to suggest a need for this.
We're all in favor of reducing violent crime. It's just that pro-gunners have a method that is proven effective. Anti-gunners don't.
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December 27th, 2010 04:48 PM
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
That is one of the most illogical and anti-gun thoughts I have encountered yet on a gun forum, by someone I presume to be a gun owner and shooter.
It is none of the government's business what I do with my private possessions, nor what I own providing I am not harming an innocent third or fourth party. It's not the government's business to tell me what I can own or whom I can sell them to. With that said, opinions are like rectums, most of us have them. Some just put forth more fecal material than others.
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December 27th, 2010 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
WOW, ...and your point is....
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December 27th, 2010 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
Here speaketh the History teacher: Anytime in history where weapons have been controlled by government in their use and possession by individuals FREEDOM has been lost. That's the big picture. The main point is this: REGISTRATION ALWAYS LEADS TO CONFISCATION. ALWAYS!!! Point of purchase "background checks" are just a backdoor manner of "registration." Remember, to confiscate, the government has to know where the guns are. Even under the Reagan and Bush administrations, the BATFE (our home grown version of the Gestapo) it was Federal Law that all info on the form 4473 had to be destroyed after 24hrs. Do you really believe that the autocrats who run that agency have been following those directives? If you do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Cheap. Somehow the agents and leadership of that agency have ALWAYS attracted the thugs who seem to somehow ooze in and inhabit the noble profession of law enforcement. Every profession has it's own version. There are power mad thugs everywhere. It's too bad these happen to have guns and "STEENKIN BODGES" (catch the movie reference?) and an infrastructure in the leadership to urge them forward. Cheered on, of course by the anti-freedom media.
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December 27th, 2010 10:24 PM
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my buddies & i do what we do
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December 27th, 2010 10:27 PM
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my buddies & i do what we do

This means ... WHAT, exactly??
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December 27th, 2010 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
I second that, when the gun shops no longer have to run checks.
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December 28th, 2010 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
In NC they are. And so are the individuals. There is no "gun show loophole" here. I would bet some folks would be surprised that gun laws still apply at a gun show, whatever they may be. But surprise of all surprises, some folks, even gun owners, break the law. Does it really matter whether they break the law at a gun show, local 7-11 parking lot, or through a local sale paper? Funny thing about laws, they don't really prevent crime. They just lay out the punishment for it.
I prefer to live dangerously free than safely caged!
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December 28th, 2010 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I think gun shows should be held to the same standards as gun shops.
They are here... are you saying they aren't where you live ?
You can't buy a gun from a dealer at a gun show that's 1) not an ffl , 2) doing a 4473, and 3) a NICS check. Now , you can buy from an individual walking around the show and wants to do a personal sale, but even then.... most will pay an FFL dealer there $20 to do a transfer to be safe.
There are NO dealers selling guns here, without a 4473, background check (NICS), etc.
What they are trying to stop , is anyone being able to do a personal sale,.... anywhere. Period. There is not gun show loophole. Believe me, I spent some hours talking with my Congressman's staff and going thru it with them .... and showing them ... it's bogus.
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Chief Justice John Roberts : "I don't see how you can read Heller and not take away from it the notion that the Second Amendment...was extremely important to the framers in their view of what liberty meant."
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December 28th, 2010 03:04 AM
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"Gun Show Loophole" is just another catchword scheme aimed at getting Gun Control over the masses by the rulers. 
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December 28th, 2010 08:14 AM
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"Gun Show Loophole" is just another catchword scheme aimed at getting Gun Control over the masses by the rulers.
Bingo!!!
The far left media organizations like ABC, and CNBC are working in concert to drum up support for closing the non-existent "gunshow loophole". They also want a new AWB and regulation of firearms by the Consumer Product Safety Commission.
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