UGLY: Marine, wife attacked by teens after showing of "Little Fockers"

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    UGLY: Marine, wife attacked by teens after showing of "Little Fockers"

    orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-marine-attacked-teens-little-focke20101228,0,1968167.story OrlandoSentinel.com

    MANATEE, Fla. (AP) — A group of unruly teenagers attacked a 27-year-old Marine and his wife who had asked them to be quiet during a Christmas night showing of "Little Fockers." Theater management asked them (the kids) to leave and the couple left shortly after that.

    The attack happened as the couple left the theater near Bradenton Saturday night. Authorities say the fight attracted about 300 bystanders.
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    As they exited the theatre just before 10 p.m., the wife was surrounded by about 15 girls who looked as if they were going to attack her, the young marine said.

    A witness said he had retrieved a firearm from his vehicle and offered to escort the couple to safety. The marine said he told his wife to go with the witness to get her out of harm’s way.

    Suddenly seven males then surrounded the marine and began to kick and punch him. He said thanks to his training, he was able to more than hold his own. The thugs were driven back by the ARMED citizen who brandished a firearm to drive back the crowd. The police responded and when they arrived theater management told everybody not holding a ticket to leave. A police officer told several of the punks to leave and they refused. One attacked a police officer and had to be tased and arrested. Another adult female was also arrested for the incident.

    Okay, I also have to wonder how many of the COMBATANTS did the marine drop on his own? My guess is that they'll be remembering for quite awhile what it costs to physically attack a combat experienced US Marine.
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    Pretty brazen teens to attack a couple, then a cop when he arrives.
    Someone help me out here...what in the world should we do with these little 'repeat offenders'...perhaps Uncle Ted could tell us?
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    I agree with retsup99 - Uncle Ted would have the answer! I hate to sound like an old dude - but geez what ever happened to respecting others?
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    If Uncle Ted doesn't have an idea I would bet that Hank Williams Jr. (Atitude Adjustment) or Charlie Daniels (Simple Man) would.

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    Sounds like another case of law-abiding armed citizens saving the day.
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    Sounds like too many youngin's these days have no respect for anyone else. No morals, and no brains. Hope the brandishing citizen didn't get in trouble for his actions. Sure he assisted, but what if "one" of them decided to jump on him. Would he have been justified in using his firearm on the "one" that jumped him? Most likely not (use of deadly force against an unarmed teenage punk). Could have turned ugly.

    Glad everything turned out on the up side for these people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkruf View Post
    ...what if "one" of them decided to jump on him. Would he have been justified in using his firearm on the "one" that jumped him?
    Good question. There is some precedence for a large number of attackers being a legitimate contributing reason to escalate to use of deadly force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coder View Post
    Good question. There is some precedence for a large number of attackers being a legitimate contributing reason to escalate to use of deadly force.
    Gets a little tricky though. If it was determined that the marine had entered into "combat by agreement" by not leaving with his wife, then deadly force could not be used (at least in Utah...I know, this wasn't in Utah).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkruf View Post
    Sounds like too many youngin's these days have no respect for anyone else. No morals, and no brains. Hope the brandishing citizen didn't get in trouble for his actions. Sure he assisted, but what if "one" of them decided to jump on him. Would he have been justified in using his firearm on the "one" that jumped him? Most likely not (use of deadly force against an unarmed teenage punk). Could have turned ugly.
    I teach in an inner city high school in Miami Dade County and I have for about 14 years. These punks are is exactly the demographic I face every day. A couple of years ago a teacher in my school was jumped outside his classroom and his jaw broken in three places. He never returned to the system and he was a great teacher. If they'll attack an armed police officer, what do you think they'll do to a teacher? They have no respect for any sort of authority. None. By "they" I'm not referring to the good kids, the ones who want to learn and graduate and get into college. I'm referring to the animals who come to school so they can prey on others and victimize teachers, knowing they'll never be properly punished by a liberal school system. It sickens me. Thank the Lord, I'm edging closer and closer to retirement before I take one of them out. That's the main reason I'm untouched. I always show my kids at the start of the year a slide presentation combined with movies of me in the army from long ago as well as recent stuff of me competing in IDPA matches and my Aikido training classes. Most of 'em just don't like the odds when they see 'em. After the last attack my kids all asked me if I was now "afraid to come to work?" To which I replied thusly in a sad and tired tone: "Look, I'm too young to die and too old to take an butt whuppin' so .... I'm just gonna KILL ya!" Their eyes were the size of dinner plates and one whispered: "Yeah, we sorta thought you'd say that." And that's all. But I think I've done my time in the 'Hood. I need to get out before it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. I have had a school recently approach me with the purpose of recruitment to teach there and it would be the polar opposite of where I am now. If only I can hang on the rest of the year....
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    It would be a good move Ex-... Good luck on that.
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    Good luck with your plan to move. Sounds like you've stuck it out long enough and done your duty. You deserve the break. Fourteen years in a school like that gets you to near sainthood.

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