This is a discussion on Sheriff Dupnik gave Loughner several passes on death threats within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by Hopyard I do think all the violent rhetoric that gets tossed around rather carelessly, including sometimes here when folks talk about a ...
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What you say isn't as important as what the other person hears!
Also I do believe that there is more than 1 mentally disturbed person living in Tuscon too that have the potential to be violent too so do we lock them up too. How about everybody be pissed at the guy who committed this heinous crime instead of arm chair quarterback review. If there is a file on this guy lets see it. Maybe state law needs changing when dealing with the mentally disturb person.
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Hey Blair let me ask you this. Is it your duty to investigate a possible felony if a complaint is made to you? Yes?
Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers.
Is a death threat a felony in AZ?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
I'll stand by my previous post and say that IF the above is true then it sure as heck is LEs fault. You'll notice the "if" is the big question here.
The government is merely a servant -- merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a
patriot and who isn't. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.
Hopyard & Bark'n,
Even plain clothes security...As n not obvious wearing a uniform types.
For example this past spring I'd attended as an invitee the UMass-Amherst annual Faculty Convocation.
This is invite only not open to the public attended largely by faculty and a few select non-faculty guests as among the UMass system, state reps again...And me.
There were less than 100 people on site actual, I have no idea how many were invited.
They had security.
A three man team of plain clothed ill fitting suit wearing you gotta be kidding me tac type smoked color 'eyepro' (only a shooter or industry person would recognize them as such) sporting black tac boots.
This was a quiet day event within the central heart of the campus.
They even had the mind to provide some security. And they were armed as noted by the poorly fitting Sunday suits they had selected to wear and clearly to me did not purchase while taking into account executive/vip detail work. I'd posted about this some time ago in a thread about wearing proper clothing as when in a civilian _concealed_ intent mode of dress.
If a bunch of professors and a college chancellor are deemable to have security, then MOST definitely a sitting congress person intending to give a political dialog public 'meeting' should.
Even as other folks normal protocol has not been to give this item a second thought; As based on caught by OMG I can't believe this happened results.
As for security at the second venue I mentioned, no--- I either recognized everyone there or knew someone who recognized them, or they were young interns. Again, no one hovered near the critter to offer instant protection of any sort.
Probably, I was the most scary looking person in the place as I attended an evening affair dressed in my usual wranglers and tennis shoes. I looked out of place and probably caused a little low level concern for the critter---and I realized that too late, so I avoided engaging him in conversation and kept my distance so as to not make him feel uncomfortable.
On returning home I caught it from the big boss of the house for having made a posterior of myself by not at least putting on dress slacks. A lesson learned along the lines of my previous posts that one should dress appropriately to avoid standing out and becoming a target for a BG.
It looks like things security wise will change in the future. Unfortunate.
And for all the government haters out there, really, the critters I mentioned were very ordinary real human beings and not some alien creature who wants to destroy America.
Opinions everybody has one and I respect that. No matter what we say here, it will never bring back the lives that were lost and injured that day in Tuscon.
Dupnik is a clown and he has proven it over and over this past week. But, once again, this is out of the forums scope. Closed.
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