GOOD? DeLay goes down swinging...
This is a discussion on GOOD? DeLay goes down swinging... within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; The Former Sen. Tom "the Hammer" DeLay, just sentenced to 3 years in prison for money laundering, was on the Today Show this morning giving ...
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January 13th, 2011 08:33 AM
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January 13th, 2011 08:33 AM
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January 13th, 2011 08:46 AM
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Now we just need to get every politician to think that way. They need to realize that theres more good than bad out there(at least for now) when it pertains to gun owners. If they start banning everything the problems wont go away. I'm trying to understand how these politicians are coming to the conclusion that banning firearms will keep the bad guys from getting them.
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January 13th, 2011 09:08 AM
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The man is a felon. Great spokesperson for the 2A...NOT
We can do better.
On hiatus.
Hit my limit for speculation, the sky is falling, and gun owners fighting amongst themselves.
UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!
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January 13th, 2011 09:21 AM
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The man is a felon. Great spokesperson for the 2A...NOT
We can do better.
Precisely. Why do we listen to the words of felons? Why do we think that people who have messed up their own lives so badly that they will do jail time have anything worthwhile to offer us in the way of "truth."
BTW, this isn't a new phenomenon. We have seen several notable felons become big time radio & tv personalities. A former Nixon plumber who served many years in jail; a former police officer who perjured himself and destroyed the first OJ Simpson trial; a former military officer who had a conviction overturned but who no doubt improperly used Federal money to put security systems on his home. None of these are respectable people and non could be issued a CHL in most jurisdictions.
We demean ourselves by seeking support from such people. We might as well go to the state penitentiary, find an armed robber, and use him as the poster child for gun rights. See how far that tactic would get us.
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January 13th, 2011 09:27 AM
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DeLay was the victim of the partisan politics he was a master of; Ronnie Earle, the Travis county DA who went after him had an axe to grind with DeLay for years. Look for this to be an important case because both parties engage in this kind of activity all the time; if the conviction sticks, then there should be a whole bunch of similar cases to follow.
It should be interesting to note that DeLay was convicted on mainly circumstantial evidence and that at one point during the trial deliberations, the Judge, Pat Priest had to come down on the jury to get them back on track......
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry
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January 13th, 2011 09:36 AM
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Dont get me wrong. I am a probation officer. I understand he is a convicted felon, but he stood for gun owners when he was in good standing. If he did launder money he is a crook like any other. Unlike police officers, every person I deal with on a professional basis in an enforcement capacity is a convicted felon. There is nobody more against crime and its unfortunate consequences, than me. My point is, he had every reason to abandon said causes for self preservation and try to use the show as a platform to further his appeal, and try to prove his innocence, but he didnt.
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January 13th, 2011 09:37 AM
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DeLay also had money for better legal representation than most could afford or hope for. Still guilty. Bad legal representation...maybe. Jury still found him guilty.
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Hit my limit for speculation, the sky is falling, and gun owners fighting amongst themselves.
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January 13th, 2011 09:48 AM
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Admittedly I don't know much about DeLay or this case, however, just saying that a jury found him guilty does nothing (for me) to prove that he actually IS guilty.
Juries mess up ALL THE TIME! Juries award complete IDIOTS millions of dollars for spilling coffee on themselves, or because they ate at a certain fast food establishment and got fat.
I believe that our system is the best, but it has major flaws as well.
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January 13th, 2011 09:50 AM
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The man is a felon. Great spokesperson for the 2A...NOT
We can do better.
Exactly.
DeLay was found guilty by a jury of his peers. He is no different from any other convicted felon. For the life of me i cannot understand why law abiding gun owners put any stock in what felons like DeLay and G. Gordon Liddy have to say.
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January 13th, 2011 09:53 AM
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I agree; "do the crime" then "do the time".
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