Radio station owner loses CWP after airing "shootout" challenge

Radio station owner loses CWP after airing "shootout" challenge

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    Radio station owner loses CWP after airing "shootout" challenge

    The following are excerpts from the article. Follow the link for the entire story. The "antis" have a new hero, and it's this guy. Just my .02...

    From www.foxnews.com

    A local school board member and radio station owner under fire for airing an inflammatory editorial denouncing Martin Luther King Day has had his concealed carry permit revoked after he threatened a rival radio station owner to a "shootout."

    The Denver Post reported Sunday that Reese's concealed carry permit was revoked by the Weld County sheriff and he was served with a restraining order after he threatened a rival radio station owner with a "shootout" if the station's ad sales team didn't stop calling businesses that underwrite Reese's non-commercial station.

    The board will vote Tuesday on a policy to ban weapons from all school property, including administration buildings where board meetings are held, the Denver Post reported.
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    Don't take much to set folks off these days. I got an E-mail whereby a Wrestling coach in White Bear Lake, MN. made the mistake of saying that he'd like to get Obama in the ring. The school has suspended him and the secret Service paid him a visit.

    What ever happened to free speech?

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    Email 0diggsdiggCloseShare A White Bear Lake High School part-time assistant wrestling coach has been put on paid administrative leave because of comments he made following a UFC fight about President Barack Obama.

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    What ever happened to free speech?
    Where I live it doesn't include the freedom to threaten someone . . . "Criminal threatening is the crime of intentionally or knowingly putting another person in fear of imminent bodily injury."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_threatening

    [EDIT: The attached quote is from the New York Post article running in another thread___case in point about "free speech" and threats;

    Meanwhile, a victim from last week's massacre, Eric Fuller, was arrested yesterday after allegedly saying "you're dead" to a gun-rights supporter as the two were speaking at a forum being taped to air on ABC today, the Arizona Republic said.
    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz1BJ0bWCrZ ]
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    Come on people, think for just a second before spewing threats especially against the President of The United States (I don't care which one) and especially after the Tucson violence. I'm all for free speech, but I think common sense is more important and apparently increasingly more rare.
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    Agreed 3D, and Joker.

    Those who _think_ that in the US 'freedom of speech' is not limited by restraint and dis-allowance to say just anything that comes to mind including as to make overtly or covertly threatening statements AND?OR to make statements of physical violence as toward THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...Then well they might want to go back to HS civics class and refresh on what was missed (or forgotten) from the first time around.

    Freedom of speech in the US is not and has NEVER been unlimited.
    Persons like these people, especially the first (radio station guy) really need to get a clue and THINK before they attempt to exercise a 'freedom'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    Agreed 3D, and Joker.

    Those who _think_ that in the US 'freedom of speech' is not limited by restraint and dis-allowance to say just anything that comes to mind including as to make overtly or covertly threatening statements AND?OR to make statements of physical violence as toward THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...Then well they might want to go back to HS civics class and refresh on what was missed (or forgotten) from the first time around.

    Freedom of speech in the US is not and has NEVER been unlimited.
    Persons like these people, especially the first (radio station guy) really need to get a clue and THINK before they attempt to exercise a 'freedom'.

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    The last time I checked (I payed attention in English class) this wasn't a threat.
    “Actually, Obama. He’s not too bright…. like the make a home affordable plan and his health care plan, someone needs to knock some sense into that idiot.
    The man never said or implied a threat against the President.

    Or are we going with the challenge of who will face him next in a sanctioned prize fight? If that is the case then every prize fighter since Ali is guilty of multiple offenses.
    It is surely true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Nor can you make them grateful for your efforts.

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    We still have a system where if you don't like a particular elected official, you can vote him or her out of office. Making any kind of statement that could be construed as a threat against the President will get you jacked up by the Secret Service and I seriously doubt they will give a rip about "English Class'!
    Thought it may not be a threat, it still might be "inciting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    We still have a system where if you don't like a particular elected official, you can vote him or her out of office. Making any kind of statement that could be construed as a threat against the President will get you jacked up by the Secret Service and I seriously doubt they will give a rip about "English Class'!
    Thought it may not be a threat, it still might be "inciting".
    Sad, but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper View Post
    We still have a system where if you don't like a particular elected official, you can vote him or her out of office. Making any kind of statement that could be construed as a threat against the President will get you jacked up by the Secret Service and I seriously doubt they will give a rip about "English Class'!
    Thought it may not be a threat, it still might be "inciting".
    Well I'm afraid I don't know enough about "inciting" statutes to argue or agree with you. I just don't like how everyone can't seem to understand our own language anymore. A threat is a threat, and this was not a threat. Truth is truth no matter how the press or the Secret Service spin it.
    It is surely true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Nor can you make them grateful for your efforts.

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    It sure is funny that a group of left wing liberals can make a movie regarding the assassination of a sitting president, G.W. Bush, and it be dismissed as free speech and a work of art, yet any conservative opens their mouth at the wrong time and it's not free speech, it's a serious threat.

    If the Tea Party movement, as an organization produced a movie on presidential assassination of a "fictional" president, the Secret Service and Janet Napolatano would swoop down and snatch them up so fast their heads would spin.

    I agree though... Keep your pie hole shut and you'll have less grief.
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    I live where this school board member has "shot his mouth off" (sorry no real pun intended). He really does not know when to be silent. He made a statement to the newspaper that he had a CCW and was going to start carrying to the board meetings.(After airing some white supremacy quotations about MLK and receiving death threats). He normally carries but said in deference/respect (?) to the board, that he had not been carrying. Where the board meetings are held, it is legal to carry. Probably should have kept silent and just carried then but now the board is having meetings in the various schools around the district to foil him. Next, he make this statement about having a "shoot-out" with a competitor radio station. Whew!! We're sure seeing a lot of what NOT to do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    It sure is funny that a group of left wing liberals can make a movie regarding the assassination of a sitting president, G.W. Bush, and it be dismissed as free speech and a work of art, yet any conservative opens their mouth at the wrong time and it's not free speech, it's a serious threat.

    If the Tea Party movement, as an organization produced a movie on presidential assassination of a "fictional" president, the Secret Service and Janet Napolatano would swoop down and snatch them up so fast their heads would spin.

    I agree though... Keep your pie hole shut and you'll have less grief.
    There does seem to be a double standard at times with past and present presidents ? These days even before the Tucson shootings you need to think long and hard before you pop off some comment thats going to get you in hot water, and x 2 if you have and want to keep your CCW permit.
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    The way I grew up, you respected the President and you didn't run around like some kind of escaped lunatic yammering about how he was a "Kenyan Marxist terrorist socialist redistributor Manchurian candidate."

    Now, little pretend president Bush was a serious problem and we're all paying the price for that mistake. He was genuinely stupid. But we can go back over his history and see that his entire life was one long fratboy party. He disgraced us all.

    President Obama, on the other hand, can speak in grammatical sentences. I don't know about you, but anytime I saw Bush and heard him speak, I thought, "Damn, I could do better than that." With Obama, no. He actually seems to be pretty gifted and skilled as a leader, an orator, a diplomat, and as a President. I don't think I could do better.

    No matter. The point here is that our discourse of late has allowed people to say things like, "Obama is a Kenyan Marxist Socialist Terrorist Muslim Extremist" etc. That's wrong. It's untrue, and it tends to whip up stupid people who then start planning violence and the next thing you know, we have a politician with a gunshot wound to the head in an ICU.

    We all have freedom of speech, but the Supreme Court has ruled that you don't have the right to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shockwave View Post
    The way I grew up, you respected the President and you didn't run around like some kind of escaped lunatic yammering about how he was a "Kenyan Marxist terrorist socialist redistributor Manchurian candidate."

    Now, little pretend president Bush was a serious problem and we're all paying the price for that mistake. He was genuinely stupid. But we can go back over his history and see that his entire life was one long fratboy party. He disgraced us all.

    President Obama, on the other hand, can speak in grammatical sentences. I don't know about you, but anytime I saw Bush and heard him speak, I thought, "Damn, I could do better than that." With Obama, no. He actually seems to be pretty gifted and skilled as a leader, an orator, a diplomat, and as a President. I don't think I could do better.

    No matter. The point here is that our discourse of late has allowed people to say things like, "Obama is a Kenyan Marxist Socialist Terrorist Muslim Extremist" etc. That's wrong. It's untrue, and it tends to whip up stupid people who then start planning violence and the next thing you know, we have a politician with a gunshot wound to the head in an ICU.

    We all have freedom of speech, but the Supreme Court has ruled that you don't have the right to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater.

    Wow, You are kidding, right?
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