Are there actually more shootings lately, or are the media having a field day?

Are there actually more shootings lately, or are the media having a field day?

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    Question Are there actually more shootings lately, or are the media having a field day?

    It seems to me, that there are many, many more reports in the media lately on shootings. Whether it involves LEO's, or gangs, or just domestic violence, the reports have seemed to increase substantially since the Tucson tragedy.

    I don't remember ever seeing so many articles on the mainstream media (CNN, Fox, etc.) reporting on these. There are even three articles today on CNN's front page related to shootings.

    This leads me to believe that (a) either there really is a substantial increase in shootings, or (b), that the media is just headlining more of them for some reason.

    This leads to some further thought...

    If there truly is an increase in shootings around the US, what would be the underlying causes, if any? Is it just random? Are we just in a cycle that is at the high end? Could it have anything to do at all with current gun laws and regulations, making guns a weapon of choice?

    Or, is the media is just reporting more than usual, and if so what is the benefit? Sensationalism? More viewers for the advertisers? Perhaps. But I wonder if there is an underlying cause for them to do this.

    Just thought I would open this up to discussion.
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    I think that the media receives many leads for stories about various incidents that have happened around the World or domestically, but they will always tend to focus more on those that will get them the most ratings and viewers. Therefore, right now shootings are the "talk of the day" so they are highlighting any firearm involved incident they come upon with.
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    Seemingly, every time there's an incident like' Tucson, the media digs up every shooting they can find to feed their ratings. Not to down play these horrible stories but human nature is what it is. Eventually, things will settle down and the news will focus on whatever is hot on the AP.

    More to say... Ironically, I didn’t read the post by ‘alachner’ until after I posted my own comments, so apparently some of us are thinking in the same way.
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    I do not think that there is a marked increase but rather it is the "story du jour" for the media, they all try to top one another (take all the stories about birds dying that were all over the media earlier this month). In the instance of firearm related crime, I think it is fair to say they most in the media are of a liberal slant politically and socially and for the most part are not very pro 2A. Therefore their reporting advances their anti gun agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saber View Post
    Seemingly, every time there's an incident like' Tucson, the media digs up every shooting they can find to feed their ratings. Not to down play these horrible stories but human nature is what it is. Eventually, things will settle down and the news will focus on whatever is hot on the AP.

    More to say... Ironically, I didn’t read the post by ‘alachner’ until after I posted my own comments, so apparently some of us are thinking in the same way.
    Moscow airport attack for instance?
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    One of my co workers , parents were murdered Friday. They were 80 and 84 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrick View Post
    One of my co workers , parents were murdered Friday. They were 80 and 84 years old.

    Now that's really sad, and it takes a very special evil to commit such an act. I sure hope the BG's were caught, or will be caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrick View Post
    One of my co workers , parents were murdered Friday. They were 80 and 84 years old.
    So sorry to hear that. I hope the BG's get what they deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrick View Post
    One of my co workers , parents were murdered Friday. They were 80 and 84 years old.
    Special place in hell for people that go after the elderly, sorry about your co-workers parents.

    http://www.nbc12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13888168

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    They havn't been caught .

    What I am hearing, there was a breakin before when they were not home. They dragged his gun safe outside , but couldn't open it. My coworker and a friend bolted it to the floor after this breakin.

    Nothing was taken but the car and it was found 2 blocks away. The news said they were bludgeon to death, but a close friend of his and also a co worker said they were shot in the head.

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    Tough to say, since as others pointed out, media reports what they think will get them ratings. At the moment, the country is hyper-aware of shootings, so I'm sure stories that would have been local are being picked up nationally.

    Of course, the tin foil hat wearing side of me sees this as the potential beginnings of a spin-up for a 2012 push for a gun ban...which means expect to see lots of misleading "reports" about "assault weapons"...the definition of which is going to be different and more encompassing than the last "assault weapons ban".

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrick View Post
    One of my co workers , parents were murdered Friday. They were 80 and 84 years old.
    I pray for them and family, truly horrible. I hope justice is quick.
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    There is a chapter in the "Autobiography of Lincoln Steffens" titled "I created a crime wave." In it he tells the story of when he was assigned to the local precinct
    s crime desk as punishment for some infraction or other of his editor's rules. He discovered the crime reporters played polker, the police media officer came in and dropped off a story, they would go write it up, and go back to playing cards. Every body was happy. But not Steffens. He went to other sources and started reporting every crime he could find. Other paper editors, getting questioned about why they were not reporting on this "crime wave" started doing the same thing. Pretty soon the "crime wave" was a hot topic, political speeches being made, etc. And all the while there were no more and no less crimes being committed than had been all along.

    Somehow, it seems an appropriate anology.

    Fitch

    PS: the chapter must have made an impression on me, I read the book ~58 years ago.

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    No one has of yet related the perceived increase in shootings and crime in general with the state of the economy, increased numbers of immigrants (legal and illegal),and reduction of law enforcement due to budget deficits. People who lost their homes, jobs and savings often feel hopeless and turn to crime as a way to survive as well as get even. When they no longer value their own lives it's a short stretch to take someone else's. It's easier to note, as I did on last night's evening news, where Diane Sawyer, in response to a similar question replied that it was probably a result of easier access to guns. Just a thought, record numbers of guns and ammunition have been sold since we've become an Obamanation and that's just the legal stuff.

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    I am very upset, it has been weeks with no news of brave Americans stuck inside of a octamom or trapped or if celebrities accidently wore the same dress to a fashion show, you know the real news…

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