Fort Hood shooter still gets a check!

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    Fort Hood shooter still gets a check!

    Major Nidal Hasan (Fort Hood killer) STILL GETS PAID!!!!! (He is having trouble finding a bank to cash his checks.)

    This is unbelievable that this is allowed to happen. That's bad enough but the money($54,000 so far) goes to the Lawyer to help defend this killer.

    The Lawyer, Galligan, "expressed worry that his client will not “get a fair trail at Ft. Hood if he can’t even get a bank account….”

    "According to an army spokesman, service members continue to receive their pay packets while imprisoned, until an ultimate determination is made of their duty status as a result of a trial on the merits of the case against them. “He is a major in the United States Army and will therefore be paid until he is no longer a major,” explained Lt. Col. Chris Garver."

    Ft. Hood Shooter Still Receiving Pay from the Army
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    Innocent until proven guilty holds in all cases. I would hate to have my pay cut because of an accusation, and I figure I'm not alone in that regard. Yes, we all KNOW he's guilty, but he hasn't been found so by a jury, and he IS a Major in the Army. I have no problem with him getting paid unless and until he is convicted in a Court Martial and stripped of his rank/ordered to forfeit all pay and allowances.
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    Although we all know he is guilty that is the law. Until he is tried and convicted we the taxpayers will continue to pay him. Hopefully his shy… err I mean lawyers will stop the endless delaying tactics and allow him to be brought to trial, be convicted and hopefully receive the death penalty.
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    What OPFOR said. He's still an O-3 in the Army till a court says different.
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    Kind of makes you want to scream for that speedy trial (6A). Of course that is the right of the defendant, not the state. The defense lawyer is probably dragging this out to get more funds for himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksholder View Post
    Kind of makes you want to scream for that speedy trial (6A). Of course that is the right of the defendant, not the state. The defense lawyer is probably dragging this out to get more funds for himself.
    He has a civilian lawyer?


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    I agree our system is not perfect, but it sure beats what is used in most of the world.
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    I'll be the dissenter and suggest that he is guilty, even though he has not been processed by our lame system of justice (lack thereof).

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    I don't agree that he should be getting his pay. If it was a Police officer he would be suspended without pay. Any private company would have terminated the person immediately. I am surprised at conservatives who think anything the military does is justified. The military is the most liberal when it comes to tax payer dollars. They just spend and spend and spend even if they get nothing for the money spent.

    I agree with this poster...

    "It has been established that he did the deed. At the very least his pay should be suspended untill final outcome of a trial. In a case where the crime was not prima facia, one could see the sense in continuing pay. This jerk is getting medical attention, three squares a day and very probably a better level of care than many of the people he shot."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    ... If it was a Police officer he would be suspended without pay...
    Around here, the standard seems to be that they are put on PAID administrative leave.
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    I agree with this poster...

    "It has been established that he did the deed. At the very least his pay should be suspended untill final outcome of a trial. In a case where the crime was not prima facia, one could see the sense in continuing pay. This jerk is getting medical attention, three squares a day and very probably a better level of care than many of the people he shot."
    In a case like this, I could argue that the pay should be put into an escrow account. If he is found innocent, he gets it. If not, he doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ak56 View Post
    Around here, the standard seems to be that they are put on PAID administrative leave.


    In a case like this, I could argue that the pay should be put into an escrow account. If he is found innocent, he gets it. If not, he doesn't.
    It is his property, whether you like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 230therapy View Post
    It is his property, whether you like it or not.
    So... if the lawyers drag the trial out for years he is entitled to years and years of pay and he gets to keep it even if found guilty?

    The "property" you speak of is our property being given to him for NO service. It's American tax dollars being given to a guy sitting in a cell who killed American soldiers. We SHOULD be paying soldiers for their service not just giving money because 'that's the way it is'. We are just giving him money for nothing. It should be held in escrow and he only gets it if found innocent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    So... if the lawyers drag the trial out for years he is entitled to years and years of pay and he gets to keep it even if found guilty?

    The "property" you speak of is our property being given to him for NO service. It's American tax dollars being given to a guy sitting in a cell who killed American soldiers. We SHOULD be paying soldiers for their service not just giving money because 'that's the way it is'. We are just giving him money for nothing. It should be held in escrow and he only gets it if found innocent.
    It is absolutely not our property. He has a contract with the military. The rules are spelled out in the contract and they include payment while he does his time. Change the rules, but you're never going to successfully argue that his paycheck is not his property.

    I do not know what latitude the judge has in these circumstances.

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