And thus it begins: BGs do wear body armor as in this local tragedy...
This is a discussion on And thus it begins: BGs do wear body armor as in this local tragedy... within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; I just got this email from a good friend and former neighbor. Pretty well speaks for itself.
"Most of you know that our son-in-law, Mark ...
April 2nd, 2011 05:50 PM
And thus it begins: BGs do wear body armor as in this local tragedy...
I just got this email from a good friend and former neighbor. Pretty well speaks for itself.
"Most of you know that our son-in-law, Mark Bender, is an officer with the Chattanooga Police Department. This morning when he arrived on the scene of a robbery call, he and other officers became involved in a gun battle with the suspect. Despite multiple officers firing full magazines of bullets, the robber was not stopped easily as he was wearing personal body armor. Eventually, the officers were able to bring the suspect down by shooting him multiple times in non-protected areas of his body. In addition to the body armor, the suspect was carrying two Glock pistols with high-capacity magazines. At this writing, as far as we know, the suspect is still alive at a local hospital.
That was not the case for Mark’s sergeant who was killed at the scene. Mark arrived at the scene and saw his sergeant killed. Another officer was shot in the back as he attempted to return to his police car to get a high-power rifle to deal with the suspect. Fortunately, the officer’s own body arm stopped the bullet and saved his life. While we are privy to additional information, we feel it inappropriate to say more until it is officially released by the police department.
We note also that it could have been even worse as there was a yard sale going only a short distance away from the path of the fleeing suspect. Had it not been for the officers who chased him down, the fleeing suspect could have chosen to take hostages or worse. Initial information has identified the suspect as an escaped convict from Colorado although that has not been fully confirmed yet."
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April 2nd, 2011 06:02 PM
I'm afraid that the days of leo's only having handguns are waning. Very tough situation for the officers though they handled what they were confronted with.
Several years ago, those two guys robbing the bank in California came prepared and dealt misery to an initially undergunned police response. IIRC the only two fatalities, were the two BG's, though I think one actually killed himself.
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April 2nd, 2011 06:33 PM
Prayers for the slain officer, his family and his co-workers. BG just needs to die! LEO's need to be armed with assault rifles so they can at least have parity with the BG's.
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April 2nd, 2011 06:43 PM
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April 2nd, 2011 07:31 PM
While not that frequent, the use of body armor by BGs dates back to the 1800s.
Eventually, Patrol Rifles will become routine everywhere.
"I do what I do." Cpl 'coach' Bowden, "Southern Comfort".
April 2nd, 2011 08:07 PM
And while we are on the subject, gun carriers might want to consider buying their own armor where it is legal to do so.
April 2nd, 2011 08:22 PM
- More power to anyone that wants to do that, but I can't see myself wearing body armor unless Hanes starts making ballistic T-shirts.
Originally Posted by loneviking
April 2nd, 2011 08:31 PM
Agree. America needs to see patrol rifles more often so they can get a warm and fuzzy feeling from them.
Originally Posted by Guantes
I envision two man cars on the return; with the cover officer slinging the black for the whole shift.
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April 2nd, 2011 09:10 PM
Chattanooga armed robbery shootout update.
Update on Chattanooga shootout.
4/2/2011 - Police Sergeant Killed In Running Gunbattle After Responding To Robbery In Brainerd; 2nd Officer Hit - Breaking News - Chattanoogan.com
Bad guy is reportedly in coma as of 6PM EST. BG had on a kevlar vest. He is an escaped fugitive from Colorado.
Sad day for CPD and their families.
April 2nd, 2011 09:11 PM
Prayers for the family of the seargent.
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April 2nd, 2011 09:48 PM
Mozambique drill. If you shoot him in the chest and he doesn't go down, you need to aim for the head.
When I go to the range, it's 2-3 to the chest, 1-2 to the head. Over and over and over again.
Officers need to be trained in this drill.
The more good folks carry guns, the fewer shots the crazies can get off.
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April 2nd, 2011 10:13 PM
God be with Sgt. Chapin and his family. God be with Officer Johnston in his recovery. I work with Officer Bender on Delta Team, and he is a fine officer, and a fine detective. I love all of my brothers and sisters in blue. This is a disgusting tragedy, but one that brings us closer on such a deep level. Anything that you or anyone else needs, im right there.
We will all miss Sgt. Chapin. God bless him and his family.
Officer Andrew Peker #753
Delta Team, 2nd shift
April 3rd, 2011 02:01 AM
I agree,but sometimes distance and suspects cover and Officers adrenaline can make it hard to hit a head shot,that's when a long gun can make a huge difference
Originally Posted by 10thmtn
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April 3rd, 2011 03:28 AM
Mozambique him, Mozambique him,
If he fails to hit the ground
After two well-placed rounds!
Shoot between the eyes and lips,
No, NOT between the hips,
That should put the goblin down!
April 3rd, 2011 07:53 AM
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