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    Gun Shop Owner Arrested - Ind.

    Gun Shop Owner Arrested, Thousands of Firearms Seized Following Federal Investigation


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    Wow - the dude was clearly (allegedly) unconcerned with obeying the law. If true and convicted, the dealer network will be improved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksholder View Post
    Wow - the dude was clearly (allegedly) unconcerned with obeying the law. If true and convicted, the dealer network will be improved.


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    What a dumb-cluck.
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    If the allegations are true it is a shame he will only be facing ten years and a fine.
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    I can see an honest mistake, but this guy pushed the envelope!
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    He was warned...slow learner!
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    There is a bill introduced to the Senate almost every year to modify some BATFE record keeping rules for FFL's. The bill never seems to make it to the floor. There is another bill this year that would change some rules for FFL's. Fines would be imposed instead of warnings or license revocation for minor record keeping infractions.
    The way it stands right now, BATFE can either issue a warning or revoke a license, nothing in between. Not withstanding, criminal activity applies equally to all citizens. Illegal gun sales are illegal, straw purchases are illegal for both the buyer and the seller.

    This FFL got off with a warning the first time. He should not have been so naive, brazen or maybe just plain stupid to believe that he was not going to be watched and stung after the first warning was issued.
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    That guy is a certified blithering idiot.

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    Another case of ATF harrassing gun dealers over honest records keeping errors?

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    He is a blackeye for all of the honest gun dealers. Just illustrates the fact that there are those in all vocations who would commit illeagal activity for the sake of the almighty dollar. He was given a warning and scoffed at it. A repeat offender is a repeat no matter what the level of crime committed.

    The use of the term assault rifle and assault pistol in the press release were I feel done by the feds to make the bust more than it was and the quote about the .45 cal revolver that shoots .410 shotgun shells was a bit over the top. The "Judge" is a completely legal firearm and appeared to be making it some kind of exotic weapon.
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    I was starting to feel sorry for him when I read that he had guns in inventory reportedly sold. I thought well, maybe he is really just a sloppy record keeper. I thought as I read the beginning part that maybe he had early Old Timer's and just couldn't keep up with his business records.

    Then, I got to the part about selling to straw purchasers and selling to folks rejected by NICS. Ugh.

    It could still be more Old Timers than criminal, but it looks bad, very bad indeed.

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    More ammunition for the Anti crowd. They'll twist it around somehow. Thanks to stupid, and the rest of us will suffer in the long run.
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    I really don't like those propaganda statements from the DOJ, especially when it mentions the BATF.

    Point of fact, the BATF credibility is in the toilet.

    Lets see what a reverse spin looks like...

    61 year old gun shop owner of a rural town, 7 miles from a slightly larger town. Probably the family business for 40+ years, and knows everyone in town and the surrounding area.

    ATF Inspectors discovered that Ludington had acquired but could not account for 997 firearms that were recorded in his inventory. Ninety-three (93) firearms were located in the physical inventory that had not been logged into the A & D record. In twenty-five (25) instances, a firearm was found in physical inventory but the A & D books reflected the firearm has been sold.
    Old guy either did not have a computer or could not grasp the use thereof, and lord knows that Govt forms are not the easiest to navigate.

    93 guns taken in on trade or consignment, collection, no longer functioning or being repaired.

    25 guns sold but still in the shop awaiting customer to finish payment plan.

    inspectors uncovered documents suggesting that, on at least seven (7) occasions, Ludco sold firearms to persons who were prohibited by federal law from possessing them.
    Suggesting but not proving. If he did, he may have known these individual since grammar school, and sold them a shotgun or .22 for pest control on the farm. You'd be surprised what constitutes a Felony conviction. Not filing for income taxes or declaring income, improper storage of chemicals for fertilizer, weed fire that got out of control. Not a threat to the public by any means.

    On five (5) separate occasions between January and March 2011, undercover Indiana State Police detectives, ATF agents, and a confidential informant went to Ludco posing as customers. On each of those occasions, Ludington sold firearms despite the fact that someone other than the actual purchaser of the firearms was filling out the mandatory paperwork. This practice is commonly referred to as a "straw purchase." In three (3) of those instances, an informant (who is also a convicted felon) informed Ludington that he wanted to purchase a firearm. Ludington knew the purchaser was a convicted felon, yet sold the firearm anyway. Ludington assisted an undercover ATF agent, acting as a straw purchaser, in filling out the required paperwork for the firearms the convicted felon wanted to buy. Ludington allowed the felon to purchase two 9mm pistols, two 7.62x39mm assault rifles, a 9mm assault rifle, and a .45 caliber revolver capable of firing a 410 shotgun shell. While the undercover ATF agent was filling out the required paperwork, Ludington asked the convicted felon whether he needed any ammunition. The convicted felon handed Ludington the money to complete the purchase of the firearms.
    This from the mouth of the ATF for starters.... If true, the Felon may have been a local, that well, Ludington knew and trusted. The guy was having his wife/live-in do the paperwork (his and hers) Lots of other ways to spin this one. The quantity alone makes the statement fishy.



    Any bets that the seized weapons turn up in Mexico or along the border?
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    I don't know the man personally, but do know the family. It started many years ago with his Dad, brother, and Fred. Dad died, and Fred bought out the brother. There is always two sides to a story, and when it all comes out, we'll see that the ATF is not always the "good guys". It'll get pleaded down to just one or two charges, I'm thinking.

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    I don't know the situation, and if guilty...well, as Berretta used to say before he was acquitted of murder "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time", or maybe( "If you can't afford a great attorney?") but I always wonder about these Gov't "Set-Ups"...If the Convicted Felon, working for the ATF as an informant, hadn't been asked/ordered by the ATF to go to this old fellas family business and try to get him to do something he shouldn't, would the old fella have ever committed an alleged crime? Entrapment? Maybe not in the strict defintion of the of the law, but certainly in the spirit of it's meaning. Then there are of course the many additional charges they tack on as bargaining chips...making a plea agreement much more attractive to the average/low budget person...."If we go to trial we will go for every thing we can, 10 years and $250,000...you'll be 71 or dead before you get out and have nothing left if you live to see daylight...if you plead guilty you'll get time served and probation...which will it be???"... On another subject so many posters on this board and others are strongly against allowing the Fed Gov't to get involved in reciprocal concealed carry between states, because we don't trust them...yet so many of the same people will trust the Gov't in these situations...always makes me wonder....

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