Arrested homeowner tells why he shot

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    SD laws need to include "prevention of a felony", in addition to fear of GBI or death.
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    Yep and burglary or theft over a certain amount is a felony,criminals will learn to stick to stealing lunch money from kids
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    They had stolen all of his guns in a burglary days before, so he assumed they were the same guys coming back and probably 'armed'. He had a "borrowed" gun. There were things said that he shot them outside while running away, but ..... there were many things that indicated that was not particularly accurate... as one was shot in the face, which means he wasn't running "away" from the homeowner. The 2nd one, was wounded by fragments from the first one being shot, which shows the close proximity as well.

    It was .223 ammo.

    He never should have been arrested until they had completed the investigation or certain he had actually committed a crime. Although they are not filing any charges, he now has an arrest record for assault with a deadly weapon.
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    He never should have been arrested until they had completed the investigation
    or certain he had actually committed a crime. Although they are not filing any
    charges, he now has an arrest record for assault with a deadly
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    In many places it is standard procedure to arrest first, and sort out the facts second, downtown, in the interview room.

    If they didnt charge him, then the arrest is moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    In many places it is standard procedure to arrest first, and sort out the facts second, downtown, in the interview room.

    If they didnt charge him, then the arrest is moot.
    It may be moot, but it will start to haunt him anytime there is a background check.

    The man needs to get that wiped, and keep copies handy.
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    Heimerman shot one of the men in the jaw. That person remains in the hospital and has been unable to talk to detectives.


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    The law says deadly force can't be used to prevent property from being stolen if that person doesn't feel threatened, Yoder said
    What the law fails to recognize is that 1.) Theft is a traumatic experience that he will not forget and may affect his mental and emotional well being. Therefore, the intrusion could produce post traumatic stress that can be life threatening.

    2.) Property theft may affect his financial livelihood therefore producing a threat to his mental and physical health that could potentially become life threating.

    The man needs to invest in a good security system and a 12 ga.

    He should also demand an action plan of his city to provide regular patrols in areas of unsolved criminal activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    It may be moot, but it will start to haunt him anytime there is a background check.

    The man needs to get that wiped, and keep copies handy.

    Since bail was set, he was obviously indicted, so he's eligible to apply for a finding of factual innocence; which, if granted, would expunge his record after a certain amount of time elapses without him being charged for another crime.

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    Here's a story published Sunday with a bit more info.

    This comment by Patricia Stoneking, president of the Kansas State Rifle Association, is a curious one: "We're extremely pleased that the prosecutor saw that this was a justified situation," Stonking said.

    Umm, no that's not correct. She has either jumped to an erroneous conclusion or made a deliberate politically-motivated exegesis on what the prosecutor actually said, which was: [County Attorney Evan Watson] "...decided not to file charges" ... "Because Sumner County sheriff's deputies couldn't determine at the scene whether Heimerman's use of deadly force was legally justified."

    The decision not to file charges was because they had no evidence that Hiemerman had lied, and without evidence they had no case. That's not the same as the prosecutor believing Hiemerman was justified.

    She should know better, especially when talking to a reporter.
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    Great links. Thanks.

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