USA Today Changes the Facts

USA Today Changes the Facts

This is a discussion on USA Today Changes the Facts within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Apparently USA Today did not like the idea of a "gun toter" stopping a crime. Check this out: http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/...83672278912310...

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    USA Today Changes the Facts

    Apparently USA Today did not like the idea of a "gun toter" stopping a crime. Check this out: http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/...83672278912310

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    More Moonbat barking , I love it when they " rewrite history " so soon since all it does is impeach the entire publication ( even to the undecided on guns , when one story stands out like this it impeaches the entire paper ) . Anything that makes folks go Hmmmmm is good for us because the truth is on our side lol .
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    Recall the official police line on the incident, where they cautioned that "We don't recommend his action, he could have gotten hurt" (referring to Cope who stopped the bad guy). Actually, what he did (point a gun) was far less dangerous than what USA Today said happened (that he tackled the bad guy). I think tackling a crazed guy with a knife is good way to get stabbed several times.

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    Political correctness mixed with media deception, disinformation and misinformation.

    The time is long past sadly when we can expect unbiased and accurate reporting of events - somewhere along the line they have to be diluted and twisted - all to suit editor's agendas.

    Day one article - possibly close to fact.

    Day two follow up - massage the original if too accurate.

    Day three article - trash the first two as mistaken facts - and reverse the whole deal!
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    Heck no one I know " Recommends " taking on a bad guy , at the best its going to just ruin your day . If you come out ok on the physical end you will at the least spend the rest of the day filling out statements , paying lawyer , ect .. The gentleman in question needs to be commended without doubt , he is a true hero for stepping in when he had no stake other than decency. I am a strong believer in " NON INTERVENTION " but in this case I don't think I would have been able to " be a good witness" myself .
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    No matter how the news is rewritten the facts remain constant. It is too bad that the public depends on the media for their preception of reality.

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    Very, very sad.

    But no longer unbelieveable that they do that.

    That just makes it sadder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs
    Heck no one I know " Recommends " taking on a bad guy , at the best its going to just ruin your day . If you come out ok on the physical end you will at the least spend the rest of the day filling out statements , paying lawyer , ect .. The gentleman in question needs to be commended without doubt , he is a true hero for stepping in when he had no stake other than decency. I am a strong believer in " NON INTERVENTION " but in this case I don't think I would have been able to " be a good witness" myself .
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    Ihave to wounder what good is a sheep dog that watches the wolves atack the pack for fear the sheep might get mad i sit here some time thinking why bother a good portion of the folks hear are armed on a daily basses yet the common thread is unles it afects us just be a good witness that in my opinion is bs i dont want to be a good witness to a stabing a rape a murder i took the classes and all the bs it takes to get this far to what ?watch hell i can do that with out a gun nhave we got so much monetary that we a rooted to the concept of omg i can be sued hell its just a house a car a little savings mabey some freedom they might take frome me if i stop a bg but it was the victumsa life they would loose if i didnt wel folks i wont sit idealy buy and watch some one hurt ect hell the lawyer can have this stu8ff im hard working ill get more but can the victum get a new life ,self asteam i think not sorry if i was ranting

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    Initially in early reports I too had read via sources other than USA Today (I never read that paper) that the attacker had been "tackled" by a civilian.
    In fact it wasn't for me untill later in the day upon seeing a thread here at CombatCarry that I first saw news otherwise involving the citizen having a CCW.
    As the day went on I then saw the same news sources i normally read (e.g. ABCNews.com, WashingtonPost.com, and Yahoo.com) update themselves to reflect the revised info and they all cited AP as their source.

    I suspect this article as seen by the folks at Clayton Cramer was an early report to which news organizations are nfmaous for goofing and misreporting. Almost always one has to wait an hour or day for all the hard facts to fall and filter out.

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    I'm more inclined to intervention myself, but perhaps it's because I spent 15 years putting my life on the line for people who are happy to accept the benefits of living in this country, and demand the rights to which they feel entitled, but which they have done nothing to earn.

    The opinions expressed above don't suprise me at all.
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    Looks like we know where Winston Smith is working now.

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    USA Today = "McPaper"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cavalry View Post
    USA Today = "McPaper"
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    I knew they'd leave things out, but to re-invent the story is pretty sad. Nothing like a bias so deep it causes you to lie to millions of people.

    Here I sit, waiting in vain for the story that the reporter was disciplined for such things.
    eschew obfuscation

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