Walgreens Fires Pharmacist for Protecting Himself
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But doing "the right ...
May 21st, 2011 10:33 AM
Walgreens Fires Pharmacist for Protecting Himself
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A photograph of four children tucked in a thank-you card from a coworker reminds Jeremy Hoven he did the right thing.
But doing "the right thing" cost the night shift pharmacist his job at the Walgreens drugstore at Napier Avenue and M-139. The national pharmacy chain fired Hoven on Monday, eight days after he fired his handgun to foil an armed robbery and a potentially deadly hostage situation at the store.
Walgreens will not get my business any longer...
And I'm usually an anti-lawsuit kinda guy...way too much lawyering in this country...but in this case, I may just have to modify my thought process...
Last edited by DaveJay; May 21st, 2011 at 12:58 PM.
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May 21st, 2011 10:33 AM
May 21st, 2011 10:43 AM
Mr. Hoven did the right thing and Walgreen's did not !
May 21st, 2011 10:45 AM
Email sent to Walgreens about the firing. Time to find another pharmacy.
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May 21st, 2011 11:21 AM
I prefer CVS anyway, but Walgreens wil no longer get even the little bit of business that I have been giving them.
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May 21st, 2011 11:57 AM
I have gone through their website, and for the life of me cannot find anything pertaining to what an employee can/cannot do.
Email sent, they suck, but will do what most employer will do.
Fire the employee, make an example of them, and take their chances that if someone gets shot/killed at the hands of a thug, be it a customer or an employee, they would rather pay-out to that, than have the SO CALLED bad press of having an employee fire their weapon, and injure/kill a customer or God forbid a knuckledragger.
They will be sued either way, but would rather be able to blame a death on a thug, should they shoot someone, than one of their own employees doing it.
SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS in this country.
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May 21st, 2011 12:08 PM
Yeah.. No more of my money for Walgreens.
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May 21st, 2011 12:11 PM
Nothing like Walgreen's telling the rest of the BG's in the area that they will not allow their employees to carry firearms so come on in and rob us without being concerned you might get armed resistence.
Pure unadulterated BS !
May 21st, 2011 12:20 PM
I'm glad to see that the vast majority of comments below the story are in favor of Mr. Hoven. Gives me some hope! I would be proud to stand beside him.
We will be much better off when we learn to deal with things as they really are, instead of how we wish them to be!
May 21st, 2011 02:09 PM
Here is my letter... What do you think? I am still figuring out the best way to write these...
I have just read the news regarding the incident at one your stores involving Jeremy Hoven. (linked here: Herald Palladium > Archives > Local News > Walgreens fires armed worker
I am writing this email to express my disdain of your reaction to this. Mr. Hoven did exactly what he was trained to do. He potentially saved lives. In fact, from the news story it sounded like he probably did save that managers life. How does Walgreens react? Fire him.
If this man worked for my company I would have offered him therapy for the trauma, if he desired. Given him some time off and then welcomed him back. But, what you have shown the criminal public is that your company frowns on employees who carry guns. In turn giving them an ideal target for their next robbery where the probability of there being resistance (concealed handgun) is very small. In turn, making your stores "high probability target areas". Unfortunately, I will no longer be giving any of my business to a company that spits on mine, as well as their own employee's, Constitutional rights.
Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
May 21st, 2011 03:28 PM
1. Your statements on offering therapy, etc., don't really add much to the letter, but make it sound as if you are trying to run their company.
Originally Posted by Ianator
2. Has Walgreens posted their stores? I have no idea, because we don't shop there. Your statement that they are spitting on your rights presumes that they are posted. If they are, this idea could stay in, if they aren't, I would pull it. If it stays in, I would reword it. Spits, while a valid adjective, is a bit pejorative. You could just as easily say they don't recognize your right rather than spits on it.
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May 21st, 2011 05:45 PM
I've OC'd at our local Walgreen's stores with no issue. So company wide I don't think they are anti for customers. As far as lawsuits, I'd bet he was violating a employee policy by carrying. If you choose to do that you have to live with the consequences. Which are typically to be fired. He needs to find a small local pharmacy that would actually want him to carry. I'll likely do less business with them though, which isn't saying much in my case. I go to a small local drug store for most of my prescription.
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May 21st, 2011 05:49 PM
ksholder, thanks for the input! Although I feel as though I clearly stated that I was giving an example of what I would have done with an employee of mine...as far as the therapy goes. But I see what you are saying....
May 21st, 2011 08:48 PM
what email address are y'all using for Walgreens -- I don't want to send my thoughts to the customer service one on their website.
May 21st, 2011 09:50 PM
Wow! What an example of stupidity. An employee keeps customers safe and protects himself and what does he get? Fired! What crap! I hope the community rally's around him and boycotts the store. Imagine the impact of zero sales. Sends a great message. He will get another job easily as there are many chains and with hope they will treat him better.
Good buy Walgreens!! No more business for you. These damn businesses better stop trampling our second amendment rights or I won't have many places to shop. Except the gun store of course.....
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May 21st, 2011 11:04 PM
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