Tucson Shooter Found Not Competent To Stand Trial!
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Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- Jared Lee Loughner, accused in January's mass shooting in which he allegedly tried to assassinate a congresswoman, isn't competent ...
May 25th, 2011 05:11 PM
Tucson Shooter Found Not Competent To Stand Trial!
Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- Jared Lee Loughner, accused in January's mass shooting in which he allegedly tried to assassinate a congresswoman, isn't competent to stand trial, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.
The judge said he based his decision on a mental evaluation of Loughner.
During his hearing, Loughner was removed by marshals from the courtroom after an outburst, in which one reporter heard him say, "Thank you for the freak show. She died right in front of me," and "You're changing."
After the recess, U.S. District Judge Larry Burns asked Loughner if he wanted to watch the remainder of the proceedings on a television monitor, Loughner said yes, and he was removed from courtroom.
The hearing was held on whether Loughner is mentally competent to stand trial on charges of trying to assassinate a congresswoman.
Loughner, 22, of Tucson, Arizona, faces multiple charges -- including murder and attempted murder -- related to the January 8 mass shooting in a grocery store parking lot in Tucson.
He entered the courtroom Wednesday no longer bald and clean-shaven, as he was depicted in his mug shot shortly after the shootings. Loughner now has a full head of hair, along with facial hair.
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Burns is expected to consider the results of a mental evaluation that Loughner underwent in Springfield, Missouri.
Loughner is charged with killing six people and wounding 13 more, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, who was holding a meet-and-greet with constituents at the time. Authorities say Giffords was the target of the attack.
Loughner was indicted in March on 49 counts, including murder and attempted murder. He has been ordered to undergo a mental evaluation to help a judge determine if he is competent to stand trial in the case.
Loughner is accused of killing John M. Roll, a federal district judge; Gabriel M. Zimmerman, a staff member for Giffords; Dorothy J. Morris; Phyllis C. Schneck; Dorwan C. Stoddard; and 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green.
Loughner has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
Shot through the head and brain, Giffords is recovering from surgery that implanted a synthetic bone and a shunt in her skull, her doctors said last week.
She was in attendance last week when the space shuttle Endeavour took off with her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly, in command.
Among those attending Wednesday's hearing was Susan Hileman, 58, who was wounded in the shooting, and her husband, Bill. Susan Hileman was the neighbor who brought 9-year-old Christina to the supermarket meet-and-greet with Giffords.
Christina has often been remembered as the child shooting victim who was born on September 11, 2001.
Also attending were friends and co-workers of Judge Roll, whose courtroom was in the same courthouse as Wednesday's hearing.
Judge rules Loughner is not competent to stand trial - CNN.com
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May 25th, 2011 05:11 PM
May 25th, 2011 05:19 PM
No suprise there, you mean he's crazy? Doh!
I'd rather be lucky than good any day
There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.
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May 25th, 2011 05:21 PM
He was competent enough to plan the attack,purchase a handgun and call a cab to take him to the store.He knew what he was doing was Illegal and Immoral.I ain't buying it
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May 25th, 2011 05:29 PM
I think the bigger question is, with his past record with the Community College and Police interactions how was he able to pass the NICS and buy a handgun?
May 25th, 2011 05:43 PM
He did not commit any crimes at this point. Although he was told to get a mental health veal before returning to campus, there was no way to enforce this directive off campus. IMO, colleges should not have that kind of authority.
Originally Posted by rigel42
- know the difference
is a fancy name for crappy fighter
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May 25th, 2011 05:46 PM
This guy is a waste of space, put him in a padded room for the rest of his life. First time he asks to get out, put him on trial, and then to the chair.
May 25th, 2011 06:24 PM
Loughner commited his attack and murders in front of numerous witnesses leaving no doubt as to his guilt, I say save the taxpayers some money and just put him down same as a rabid dog.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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May 25th, 2011 08:19 PM
Just because a person is as crazy as a loon and has real problems connecting with reality, does not mean that they are stupid or incapable of some inteligent thought in order to plan something. The bigger problem we have as a society is how to balance individual freedoms, the RTBA and at the same time protecting society from folks who have no real foothold on reality. I don't have any smart answers--but I can see at least a portion of the problem....
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May 25th, 2011 10:10 PM
Then he's a waste of money too. I vote for rope. It's cheaper. Hell, I'll even donate it for the cause!
Originally Posted by mel
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May 25th, 2011 10:14 PM
I don't care if he is crazy, give him the guillotine. He was crazy enough to commit the crime; he's crazy enough to suffer the consequences.
Trust in God and keep your powder dry
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May 25th, 2011 10:15 PM
Typical lunatic defense strategy.
"I'm crazy, therefore I have no responsibility for what I did and I cannot stand trial for my crime."
I think he is perfectly normal but wants to act "crazy" when he is brought before the authorities for trial. I believe he should be tried, found guilty and punished. This type of defense it getting rather worn out.
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May 25th, 2011 11:15 PM
There is a "permanent" cure for his type of insanity.
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May 25th, 2011 11:17 PM
If he was a "radical right" person he would be going to trial but, he was a totally radical left wing nut job so it all just needs to "quietly go away."
May 25th, 2011 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by packinnova
May 25th, 2011 11:24 PM
I'll give them a box of .22lrs, and let them borrow my rifle. Or, better yet, I'll use my rifle and STILL give them a box of 22lrs. Either way, it's still only about 1/3 of a penny to save thousands on putting the sorry POS up with three squares and a roof overhead for life.
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