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    Dept. of Education breaks down Stockton man's door

    Wow, we really are living in a police state. The jack-booted thugs are coming for you!
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    Sounds like there is more to this story than what is published. Otherwise, this could be a good civil suit.
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    That's how they're going to solve the Federal budget then? That is seriously wrong...
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    Wait...wait...wait...
    Wright came downstairs in his boxer shorts as a S.W.A.T team barged through his front door. Wright said an officer grabbed him by the neck and led him outside on his front lawn
    A S.W.A.T. team called in over DEBT???????????? The article stated...
    The U.S. Department of Education issued the search and called in the S.W.A.T for his wife's defaulted student loans.
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    The men that founded this nation are not turning over, they are "spinning" in their graves for us to allow something like this to take place!
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    There has to be a whole heck of a lot more to this story than we're hearing. Search warrants aren't issued for civil proceedings.
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    from Government Collects on Student Loan Default - WSJ.com

    "After paying the companies that actually collect the loans and other costs, the U.S. Department of Education expects to recover 85% of defaulted federal loan dollars based on current value. The recovery figures are quite generous when compared with other corners of consumer debt. Banks, for example, often retrieve less than 10 cents on the dollar from overdue credit cards"

    i don't doubt they have a high recovery rate with swat teams breaking down doors and dragging off family members in their underwear. student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy court either. makes me wonder if we aren't far off from re-instituting debtor prisons.

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    I'd be asking for a whole heck of a lot more than an apology and a new door. You know, I don't really agree with no-knock warrants in any situation, but sending a SWAT team after someone for defaulting on student loans? That's absolutely ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that a simple, carefully-worded phone call to the house could have determined that she no longer lived there.
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    OK, does anybody still have any reason to doubt why the founders put in the constitution that we will not have standing armies? This is the kind of stuff King George's goons were doing. Now it is the kind of stuff our goons are doing. You would think the least they could do is get the right address. I am going to shut up now before I get kicked off the site.
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    I agree with the poster who believes that there is a lot more to this than the report is telling. Legally, police don't handle civil matters (which is what a simple unpaid debt is). I'm inclined to beleive that there are facts missing that if known might reveal that this had little or nothing to do with a defaulted studend loan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusive Man View Post
    I agree with the poster who believes that there is a lot more to this than the report is telling. Legally, police don't handle civil matters (which is what a simple unpaid debt is). I'm inclined to beleive that there are facts missing that if known might reveal that this had little or nothing to do with a defaulted studend loan.
    The article also says that the Stockton police only had one officer and patrol car there per the federal agency's request. The SWAT team was from the Office of the Inspector General. Do the same rules apply to them? And since the money was owed to the Dept. of Education, a federal entity, they may argue that it's not a purely "civil" matter.
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    I thought no knock search warrants were used if the police were afraid of violence from the suspect, or if they were afraid of destruction of evidence.

    I don't see how a student load debtor would really be either of these things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusive Man View Post
    I agree with the poster who believes that there is a lot more to this than the report is telling. Legally, police don't handle civil matters (which is what a simple unpaid debt is). I'm inclined to beleive that there are facts missing that if known might reveal that this had little or nothing to do with a defaulted studend loan.
    This was NOT the Police! The article stated 1(one) local officer and 1 patrol car just for a "police presence" while the warrant was being served by the Dept. of Education
    Stockton Police Department said it was asked by federal agents to provide one officer and one patrol car just for a police presence when carrying out the search warrant.
    Which brings up the $64,000 question...What does the Dept of Education have a S.W.A.T. team for??? and if the S.W.A.T. team is federal and not part of the Dept of Education, why would the Dept of Education have the authority to use it and/or deploy it??? Excuse me but I am still fuming over this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubborn View Post
    Which brings up the $64,000 question...
    Assuming the "facts", as currently presented, pan out, I think your price tag is a good bit low. Guess who will get to pay it - that's right, you and me, collectively, the taxpayers.
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    EXCESSIVE. Simply sending one or two officers to knock on the door, kindly explain they were there serving a warrant and taking the wife into custody would have sufficed. Jesus. LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM. Of course if this is the entire story... the media likes to conveniently leave things out for the sake of shock value sometimes.

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