Great Concealed Victory Story in Detroit

Great Concealed Victory Story in Detroit

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    Great Concealed Victory Story in Detroit

    Bad guys: Never rob a barber shop, you'll never know whats under the smock!

    Attempted Barber Shop Robbery Turns Deadly in Detroit
    "Don't be afraid to see what you see.
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    Im glad all turned out ok. Sounds like the customer in the shop knew what he was doing....
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    Good for the customer, but does anyone else notice the negative connotations the writer threw in their about his actions?
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    They are still looking for a suspect that is described as a black male with scruffy hair between the ages of 22 and 30. They say he is six feet tall with a thin build and was wearing a white tee shirt and blue shorts.
    They left out the part about the brown stain on the shorts...
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    They are still looking for a suspect that is described as a black male with scruffy hair between the ages of 22 and 30. They say he is six feet tall with a thin build and was wearing a white tee shirt and blue shorts.
    They forgot to mention the large brown on the back of his shorts.

    Police say the deceased has a long rap sheet. He was currently out on parole for an armed robbery conviction.
    Obviously he was released too soon. Somewhat anti self-defense I am surprised the “reporter” did not call it a lethal high capacity automatic assault pistol. Good job by the customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    They left out the part about the brown stain on the shorts...

    You and msgt beat me to it :)

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    Cool

    Another story with a happy ending.
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    In that part of Detroit I wouldn't sit in a barber chair with anything less than a 12 ga. under the smock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye .45 View Post
    Good for the customer, but does anyone else notice the negative connotations the writer threw in their about his actions?
    Not really. I did notice how he said that the customer "...opened fire and emptied his automatic clip containing multiple rounds."
    Must have been one of those newfangled firearm magazines.
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    and emptied his automatic clip containing multiple rounds.

    Ron Savage needs either to take a course in writing: fact verification or perhaps
    look for other employment.

    not noticeably negative...it was too hard to spin this one. after all, the CCW took care of the CHILDREN and dispatched a very BG.
    much as it probably hurt Ron and his editor--there was no nasty in this story.
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    The CCW man shows signs of some very good training.

    Shoot BG to floor with one hand and protecting children with other.

    If slide had not locked back or mag not emptied he may have took care of other BG as well.

    I am beginning to thank good quality training is extremely important.
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    In reading, I wasn't clear if he did any one-handed shooting. Similarly, it was impossible to know if he was point-shooting from under the smock, or if he'd been able to clear cover and sight-in (my first thought was that he point-shot, but upon reading the article again, I realized that I'd made that assumption, without any basis).

    One member on my home Ohioans for Concealed Carry discussion Forum noted that the way this particular barber-shop was set up (he'd been a patron in the recent past), the shoot would have occurred at very close distances, no matter how everything else went. That's not to deride the performance or the training of the good-shot CCW/CHL shooter in this case (a man whom I'd call a hero, given how he even thought to corral the children), but it may lend some insight.

    Certainly, when I'm getting my haircut, I would very much like to have that gentleman in the chair beside me, that's for-sure!!!!

    One thing that I can't stop thinking about though, is that the BG seems to have fired a "warning shot." Or maybe that he was just such a bad shot that he missed, unintentionally.

    Regardless, this gave the good-guy the chance to bring his pistol into play, and the turnout was very fortunate, indeed.

    But look at the various citations we have, just here in our DC.com community, of strong-arm robberies where the BG(s) have either come-in shooting, or very rapidly made the decision to shoot the victim(s) and/or bystanders.

    What if this BG had decided to make that first shot count? and what if it had been our hero, on the receiving side of that first shot?

    Now, please understand that I'm not trying to armchair quarterback this thing. I hate that. I know from having had at least some Force-on-Force training that all the what-ifs and the couldas and wouldas all go right out the window, in the moment.

    Instead, I'm just trying to paint another scenario, and to hopefully learn from both this one, as well as that hypothetical.

    I try to do my due-diligence in training and practice, so that I don't lose (much) sleep at night worrying about my level of proficiency (I say "much," because I know I can - and do - always strive to do better).

    But the question of "at what point do I press that trigger" is one that keeps me up at night.

    I can only hope that if that God-forbid time ever comes, that I do the right thing, and that the outcome is favorable.

    To the gentleman who defended the innocents in this shoot, I say good job, and that I'd hope to meet you one day and shake your hand.

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    Kinda reminds me of Tuco in the opening scene of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

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    Did he finish his haircut??

    Sounds like one less BG and one BG that might think twice about doing wrong.

    I can't imagine anyone ever training for this exact scenario, but I have heard of people practicing drawing from a chair simulating from a restaurant, etc. Stay vigilant; "Therefore, stay awake, for you know neither the day nor the hour."

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    The only way this story could have ended better is if there were two dead bad guys laying on the ground.
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