Post By SIGguy229
Post By azchevy
October 6th, 2011 08:30 AM
Ihop shooting ak-47 altered........
Weapon has a past with some empty spaces in it's ownership history.....
Sheriff: Gun in IHOP shooting illegally altered
October 6th, 2011 09:04 AM
Ownership history is a non-issue. Why? Because the alternative is to have the gov't approve/track each purchase and transaction...which is beyond the scope of their authority.
It was a BG with a gun...the gun didn't make him do it. The fact it was altered would have been a factor during trial, but since the coward off'd himself, it will be another feather in the Brady cap to call for closing the "loophole" of private gun transactions.
In the end, the gun will probably be destroyed, and the guy won't ever commit another crime.
Future crimes will not be prevented by tracking purchases or transactions--otherwise places like NYC, Boston, and Baltimore would be the safest places in the country.
Last edited by SIGguy229; October 6th, 2011 at 02:54 PM.
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October 6th, 2011 09:45 AM
Let's be sadly realistic here, he probably killed LESS people if he was firing on full auto. If he was on semi-auto, he would likely have aimed each shot more carefully. Of course, the Brady folks would say I was crazy for using logic like that.
Still, a terrible tragedy.
'Be careful, even in small matters' - Miyamoto Musashi
October 6th, 2011 09:51 AM
In this case the fact that the weapon was illegally altered is a factor.
The person who did the "professional" work to the firearm should be held accountable for the federal firearms violations if identified.
October 6th, 2011 12:01 PM
Agreed. As it relates to "professional" work:
Originally Posted by Old School
- How does one determine if, in fact, the weapon was "professionally" altered?
- Is there a specific/detectable technique that every professional gunsmith employs that would somehow mark/tag a weapon as being "professionally" altered?
- Doesn't "professional" also imply that the modification was performed in exchange for money?
- Can anyone who is handy around guns alter an AK like a "professional" gunsmith?
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Ben Franklin
October 6th, 2011 02:22 PM
How bout this then:
Anyone who did the illegal alteration on the AK-47 used in the IHOP shooting should be held responsible for their action.
I used the term "professional" as it was used in the article.
It would seem the work done was of a high caliber and not done in a shoddy manner.
October 6th, 2011 02:41 PM
Anyone with basic machinist skills could "professionally" alter it using plans from the internet.
October 6th, 2011 03:06 PM
I believe that, based the information in the link, the initial modification, may now be beyond the federal statute of limitations for such NFA violations.
"I do what I do." Cpl 'coach' Bowden, "Southern Comfort".
October 6th, 2011 03:14 PM
IIRC the AK47 parts kits had FA parts in them,except for the Auto Sear.If I had the FA parts I could convert one,but I won't, I work within the confines of the law,besides if I wanta shoot a FA AK47 I'll call my buddy up his is legal.
It could be that the FA parts were machined and not factory,which would be the professional aspect
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