Micro Meth Labs

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    Micro Meth Labs

    This may be old news for some, but the "Meth" matter (and increases in crime overall) in N. Texas was one of the impetus for Nancy and I to obtain our CHL's.

    From the Wall Street Journal: Micro Meth Labs Run Riot - WSJ.com

    Police across the U.S. are struggling with a proliferation of busts for methamphetamine production, fueled by the rise of small but dangerous "one pot" labs.

    The increasingly popular technique has largely replaced the kitchen-size meth lab with a single, two-liter soda bottle. Ingredients for a batch can easily be obtained on a single trip to a pharmacy and mixed almost anywhere. One-pot labs aren't new, but they are spreading just as budget cuts are reducing police forces.
    Since Tulsa police found the city's first one-pot lab in late 2008, lab busts have soared, reaching 315 in 2009. So far this year, police have busted 372 labs, up from 323 in 2010.

    DEA data show that the trend is similar elsewhere. In Virginia, for example, the number of labs and related sites discovered by police has been surging. In Indiana, the number last year was up 64% from 2008, at 1,213. The figures include all types of meth labs, but one-pot operations now predominate.
    Meth cooks usually don't accumulate cash or assets that can be confiscated to offset a probe's costs.

    "There's not a whole lot of money involved," Lt. Brown said. "Either people manufacture to supply their own habit or to trade for pseudoephedrine."
    A scourge to be sure..........
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    I recently had a personal experience; A groundskeeper in a neighborhood that I manage, found a suitcase next to a pond in a common area. Inside were all the makings, including a hotplate that they were plugging into an outlet that was in the pump box for a fountain in the pond. The kit was just sitting in the grass for any kid to come along and find.

    Our local PD brought in a hazmat team and handled the thing like it was a bomb (apparently these kits can easily explode). One of the plastic containers was actually 'breathing' (expanding and contracting), even though there was a lid tightly on it. I get angry just repeating the story. It's one thing to trash one's own body, but to leave what is essentially a bomb laying there is a level of stupidity and evil that really pushes me.
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    "There's not a whole lot of money involved," Lt. Brown said.
    Dang, there goes my retirement plan...

    Seriously, though, meth is indeed a scourge - relatively cheap and easy to produce, and extremely destructive to users...
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    Heck,

    They are showing how to use a on jug method on Date Line & other shows
    They act real concerned about the saftey of the meth heads I think they should have to report them, if they witness any cooking of a illeagal substance PS Won't catch me watching this Dog Crap
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    It even reaches to the well (over) paid athletes ranks - Jeremy Mayfield arrested for meth possession - From the Marbles - NASCAR*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

    Talk about a guy that threw a lot away - meth can do that to you.
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    It's probably the worse drug to hit the streets since Mr. Brownstone hit the scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    I recently had a personal experience; A groundskeeper in a neighborhood that I manage, found a suitcase next to a pond in a common area. Inside were all the makings, including a hotplate that they were plugging into an outlet that was in the pump box for a fountain in the pond. The kit was just sitting in the grass for any kid to come along and find.

    Our local PD brought in a hazmat team and handled the thing like it was a bomb (apparently these kits can easily explode). One of the plastic containers was actually 'breathing' (expanding and contracting), even though there was a lid tightly on it. I get angry just repeating the story. It's one thing to trash one's own body, but to leave what is essentially a bomb laying there is a level of stupidity and evil that really pushes me.
    Not sure about the "one jug" method, but the old multi-hotplate method creates a lot of very hazardous chemicals during the process. Not stuff you want to be exposed to.
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    Down here we call the one-jug a "Shake&Bake",it is very popular.It is not uncommon for patrol officers to roll up beside someone doing it behind the wheel.
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    Not sure about the "one jug" method, but the old multi-hotplate method creates a lot of very hazardous chemicals during the process. Not stuff you want to be exposed to.
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    Meth is bad stuff,about as close to zombies as you can get,addicts will do almost anything to get high and refuse to see how bad they are getting,it also causes addicts to "pick" at their skin which leads to open sores all over their arms legs and faces.
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    The 300# meth freak coming down and feeling no external pain is why I carry the ACP. Meth is turning out to be a national tragedy...must be Bush's fault.
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    This method must be the reasoning behind the recent story I heard about a meth lab on a motorcycle. I thought my ears must be decieving me.

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    I live in one of the top five states nationally for busted clandestine meth labs in '09, but that stat really means nothing until you go run some errands in town and see the physical toll it's taken on people around here, almost can't go to any public place without coming across at least one person who's gotten the teeth erosion, scabs, missing patches of hair, or burns from a lab explosion. And it's a driving force behind a lot of smash and grab robberies (to get the cash for the supplies to make it0 and battery cases in the area (from people being under the influence of it) just this past week, the state police stopped a guy one county away, driving under a mix of meth and benzos, with this family in the car. DNR is constantly putting out reminder warnings about the one pot methods being really easy to stumble across on the trails, and funding to battle what around here is really an epidemic is constantly getting cut or jeopardized.

    With it being so on the surface, it's not a reason why I carry, but it's a constant reminder that I need to carry everywhere that I legally am able, because I literally could be right around the corner from a drug manufacturing process; dealers users, home brewers we've got them all in this town, at all levels of the community too, from the unemployed to a now former then county commissioner dealing meth to teens a few years ago.

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    I work doing appraisal for the County that I reside. I have come across a few Meth labs, one of them was in the basement of a house that I had been to recently. It exploded and caught the house on fire. Needless to say, the guy who owns the place and his girl friend were arrested. She bonded out, came back later and had a lab in a 12 x 14 out building that also caught on fire. They keep doing this despite being in and out of jail.

    These places are everywhere and not only are they dangerous, the people that run them are equally dangerous. They would kill you in a heart beat because they do not wish to be caught at the trade and will take extreme measures to make it so.
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    I have no use for meth cooks, meth dealers and meth users in my society. They can all leave the planet now. Hate it, hate it, hate it.
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    They've just found 2 of these backpack 2 liter labs within this week in Cedar Rapids...

    It's everywhere. It's dangerous.

    Those involved with it are extremely dangerous... They fear nothing, not even your gun.

    Think about it... They are carrying a bomb. They have no idea if/when it will go off... If while on their back it would probably decapitate them... And you think they're scared of that little hand cannon? They're too dumb/stoned/whacked/in need of a fix to care...
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    It could be worse.
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