Bad: They're wearing body armor. Good: it doesn't always work

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    Bad: They're wearing body armor. Good: it doesn't always work

    “The gentleman that did get shot and was killed was wearing body armor,” Martin said. “That is a trend we are starting to see. The bad guys go in to do a robbery or home invasion and they have their body armor on.

    "The Gentleman???"

    Great, now these thugs are wearing body armor... practice your headshots I guess, or use a shotty with slugs.

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    Yes a gentleman. He was a good boy, he was working towards becoming a better man, he just wasn't all the way changed yet. He shouldn't have been murdered, the homeowner should have just let him go or fired a warning shot, or helped him carry out his flat screen tv....
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    In the country, I'm with 12 ga slugs all the way, from behind the bed in the strong room. I use wheel weights and Lyman's 525 gr hollow base mold that fits into a WW red wad to protect the rifled bbl. They stay inside the 3 moa red dot on the canteleverd 20" 870 bbl. The VC ammo belt holds 60.

    Outside, the AR10 gets the nod. 180 gr 308 will turn most BG body armor into cheesecloth. If I sound a bit rammy, I've been mugged at gunpoint, and I have very little patience for these scumbags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    “The gentleman that did get shot and was killed was wearing body armor,” Martin said. “That is a trend we are starting to see. The bad guys go in to do a robbery or home invasion and they have their body armor on.

    "The Gentleman???"
    Great, now these thugs are wearing body armor... practice your headshots I guess, or use a shotty with slugs.

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    Not a new thing. It cuaght the attention of some Lawmakers a few years back. They then tried to pass a law prohibiting anyone except certain government accepted agencies from wearing them.
    To me this was funny in a sick sort of way. The idea that the same people who wanted to disarm us were now telling us we cannot even use passive means to protect ourselves.

    I believe they later passed a law the prohibits the use of body armor during the commission of a crime.

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    That's why my 870 Magnum is loaded with magnum Sabot slugs. Gotta be prepared for home invasion by bg or illegal search warrant.
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    While many disagree, that's another reason I alternate HP and FMJ ammo in the magazine. Don't care which is coming up next, but one after another gives alternating "splat" & "penetrate" when a head or crotch shot isn't available or practical by distance or BG movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammerjammer View Post
    That's why my 870 Magnum is loaded with magnum Sabot slugs. Gotta be prepared for home invasion by bg or illegal search warrant.
    And you will know the search warrant is illegal how? You got a judge in your pocket? Or do you just figure on shooting at any LEO that shows up at your house without your invitation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunthorp View Post
    In the country, I'm with 12 ga slugs all the way, from behind the bed in the strong room. I use wheel weights and Lyman's 525 gr hollow base mold that fits into a WW red wad to protect the rifled bbl. They stay inside the 3 moa red dot on the canteleverd 20" 870 bbl. The VC ammo belt holds 60.

    Outside, the AR10 gets the nod. 180 gr 308 will turn most BG body armor into cheesecloth. If I sound a bit rammy, I've been mugged at gunpoint, and I have very little patience for these scumbags.
    This post was awesome.

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    In Tennessee, it's a felony to wear body armor while in commission of certain violent felonies.
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    Just curious.........Anyone care to explain how 00 Buck at close range (10-20 feet) works on run of the mill body armor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    And you will know the search warrant is illegal how? You got a judge in your pocket? Or do you just figure on shooting at any LEO that shows up at your house without your invitation?
    If LEOs showed up at my door with a search warrant, I would be at a total loss to know why, as I have committed no crimes. However, they would not be shot at.

    Now, if there came a time when some kind of govt operatives were actively engaged in unlawful searches and seizures of innocent individuals, forcing them into vans, and my house was next, that would be another story.

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    The story doesn't say specifically if the lethal shot went through the body armor. At this point in time, for all we know, the BG could have died from a hit outside of the body armor.

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    Hmmm... Makes you think a little differently about that .380 doesn't it.

    Oops sorry I forgot about "shot placement".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    Just curious.........Anyone care to explain how 00 Buck at close range (10-20 feet) works on run of the mill body armor?
    It sometimes leaves little purple bruises on the person wearing the vest. Where as slugs leave bigger bruises.
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