Prosecutor clears Kroger shooter
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The Marion County prosecutor has officially cleared a Kroger employee who shot and killed an ...
January 7th, 2012 09:19 PM
Prosecutor clears Kroger shooter
Prosecutor clears Kroger shooter | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
The Marion County prosecutor has officially cleared a Kroger employee who shot and killed an unarmed would-be robber, while also offering more details about what happened inside the grocery store that evening.
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January 7th, 2012 09:40 PM
That's good news, too bad he's unemployed.
January 7th, 2012 09:43 PM
Kroger has not fired the employee, according to the article. I suspect they are feeling a lot of public pressure against firing him.
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January 7th, 2012 10:43 PM
Doubt they will fire him, he will pressured to resign with a nice severance package.
January 8th, 2012 01:23 AM
Nice work Mr. Elliot...
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January 8th, 2012 01:38 AM
I imagine they are, but things will cool down and after they 'review it ' over the next 3 mo's and when no-one is paying attention, they'll let him go.
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January 8th, 2012 04:06 AM
Oh, he'll be fired, but they will find another reason that has nothing to do with this incident! Personally, anyone injured as a result of violence at a business that hinders your right to protect yourself, should be sued for failing to protect you from said violence!
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January 8th, 2012 06:02 AM
The saddest part of this event is that they'll accuse him of breaking company policy and he won't even get unemployment compensation.
Why?? Because at the last second, the Police are minutes away.
January 8th, 2012 07:35 AM
Why should the victims be sued for failing to protect themselves?
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January 8th, 2012 09:04 AM
Eventually Kroger will decide to let him go. They will and must stand by their "policy" until it is changed to allow employees to be armed while on the job. Until that happens, most likely never, Elliot is toast.
I love the part where Atkinson, the dead thug, overpowered an "unarmed" Security person. Why even have a "security" person if they are unarmed. Sort of like having a firearm, but no ammunition for it.
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January 8th, 2012 10:04 AM
The one thing that I get out of this is that Wisconsin did it right with their CC law. Having it so that businesses are only free from civil liability if they allow weapons on to their premises is the way to go.
I'm glad the employees of Kroger are all safe an sound though. Hopefully Mr Elliot will not loose his job, but for now it is up to the employer to make that determination. Right or wrong, to terminate his services.
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January 8th, 2012 10:20 AM
Originally Posted by Eagleks
Thats what I got from the article as well, from the below excerpt::
"Kroger expresses our appreciation to the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department, Marion County prosecutor's office and the community for its support during the past 10 days. This has been a very stressful time for our Kroger family. The company has an ongoing internal review. There is no specific timeline for the completion of our review, and we have no further comment at this time."
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January 8th, 2012 10:36 AM
But...but....but....they had an unarmed security person in duty. She was the first hostage. What more can we expect them to do. I guess they could put up finger buster signs, that way the BG's can't stick it in someones back to simulate having a real gun.
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January 8th, 2012 10:51 AM
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January 8th, 2012 11:01 AM
Seems everyone is convinced he will be let go. The thing is, I remember reading somewhere that their employee manual only says bringing firearms is not permitted. It doesn't specify what the punishment will be. They could easily just give him a verbal warning and send him back to work as usual. They could say something like "violations of this policy will be handled on a case-by-case basis." That way they can sort of say that he was punished in this case, but the next guy caught with a firearm may not be so lucky. That would give employees who do carry an extra incentive to keep the darned thing out of sight from anyone and everyone unless something bad happens.
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