Bad guys walking..

Bad guys walking..

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    Bad guys walking..

    Anybody care to weigh in on Haley Barbor's decision to release over 200 convicts as he leaves office? I am baffled by this and am beginning to believe that a Govenor's power may be too much.
    The stated cause on most was that they were sick and it costs the state too much to keep them. WHAT??!! Fire some of your cabinet, advisers, etc. to save the money. This was done without even informing the victims or surviving family of the victims.
    It's an insult to the juries, police and the whole judicial system in my opinion.
    As I said, I'm baffled and did not expect this from him. I thought he was way too young to be suffering from dimentia.
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    We have parole boards for a reason,I don't think one guy should have the power to release hardened criminals without at least 2 other signatures,one being the Director of Prisons in their State
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    They brought up a good point on the news, that he violated a law where victims of the crimes must be given a 30 day (I think) notice before the offender is released. Despicable.
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    It was a pathetically ridiculous decision. He should be made to give his home address and name of his kids school to each convict he released. We'd see how fast he wouldn't want them on the street now.....

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    Although some key things seem to have been botched in how things were done, the pardon powers Governors typically have are under utilized. We have millions of prisoners and ex- prisoners, and there are plenty who either are actually deserving of pardons or are people to whom some mercy and generosity can be applied.

    I think most if not all Governors (and our Presidents) have traditionally handled this aspect of their job rather poorly.

    Jail (and lethal force) though sadly necessary evils, are not the only possible rational responses to criminal acts.
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    Jail (and lethal force) though sadly necessary evils, are not the only possible rational responses to criminal acts.

    You are quite right. Perhaps if we started hanging some of the more violent ones, we'd have more room for people that cant pay their taxes or are late on their mortgage payments.

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    Once you're pardoned, you no longer have a criminal record, so the government can no longer hold you for one day much less 30. I believe the executive's ability to pardon outweighs any law unless that law specifically targets the power to pardon. That being said, there probably should be some more oversight, and if the pardon is the right thing to do, why wait until you leave office?
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    I recall Bill Clinton pardoning particularly wealthy white-collars, and drug kingpins on his way out. I'm sure he came out quite well on those deals.

    I suspect that a lot of money and favors go back and forth.
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    Yeah, we're still trying to puzzle this out down here. From the latest I've heard, other than the number, most really aren't much of an issue (they've served their time and have stayed out of trouble, the sick ones are either dying or have such severe medical issues they are not a threat to society, etc). But, there's about 15 or so where we can only say "Huh?!!. There has been an injunction issued, so will have to see what the court says. Our State Constitution says that the applicant for a pardon must post it in the local paper where the crime occured for 30 days. Apparently didn't happen in several cases. The state AG is reviewing each case. Governor Barbour did a lot of great things for our state, unfortunately, this may be what he is remembered for.

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    Among those pardoned by Barbour were 16 murderers. In the end Barbour cared more for violent scumbags than he cared for their victims and the families of their victims.

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