This is a discussion on Good: Robber Waffle House shot dead by CCW permit holder. within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by ponchsox As a CCW holder I wouldn't have gotten involved unless my life was in imminent danger. I'm not interested in getting ...
I'll never understand people robbing places like Waffle House. If they had a really busy morning at about $6 per person, how much cash would they have on hand? 300 bucks tops? Stupid. Too bad the CCW holder was put in this position to begin with. I don't fault him because I wasn't there. Just a bad situation for everyone involved.
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I'm not going to be shot while laying prone on the floor.
I may be shot while defending myself, but not in the back or head while laying on the floor.
That permit holder gave them a chance to surrender, I would be very worried about taking rounds doing that.
If someone is waving a pistol ordering people to the floor I'm going into SD mode, refer back to first sentence.
No internal lock or magazine disconnect on my pistols!
Personally, as soon as some BG is waving a gun around at Waffle House (or wherever) I figure it's time for him to be shot.
I'm not ordering him to freeze, I'm not waiting for him to take witnesses in the back or have them lay on the floor.
They should give the CC hero a reward for keeping the thug from living off our tax dollars at the "Governor's University" for 10-20 years at 40k per year.
I'd love to see this on video. One or two BG's with guns and the CCW holder makes an arrest attempt and shoots only when the BG's guns are pointed at him? Sounds like Dantes parents will be speaking to a lawyer. Hope all is as stated and the CCW holder is fine.
I hope to NEVER be in any situation like this. But all that is required in my state (KY) is for me to BELIEVE my life is in danger. If there is a threat to my life, I can defend myself. Who knows how I would've handled this. But I won't be ordered to the floor. If a BG comes in waving a gun around THAT is a threat to my life.
To shoot or not to shoot, well, none of us were there actually. Who knows why this CCW guy decided to not shoot initially.
Maybe he had a good drop on the "subjects" and figured they would not want to get shot.
Could be the youthful appearence justified a hesitation to shoot but that changed when the "youth" did not comply with the order to drop their weapon and cease the robbery.
I know that in most circumstances people would be hesitant to shoot and kill another person if there was the slightest possibilty to avoid it. This case however ended badly for the would-be robber. He got someone with compassion but a willingness to kill if forced into that situation.
We all can armchair quarterback this but place any one of us into that same situation and we may do exactly what this man did. There is no such thing as a perfect shoot in a defensive situation, they are all different.
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Kenneth Jowan Craig of Spartanburg charged in attempted robbery of Waffle House | GoUpstate.com
Other perp arrested.
GG is 22 years old and was very upset by the shooting. My prayers go out to him.
Sad,not only will they kill you for a few dollars,B.G's will put their life on the line for a few dollars.