Detroit: Justifiable Homicide up 79%

Detroit: Justifiable Homicide up 79%

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    Detroit: Justifiable Homicide up 79%

    911 IS A JOKE - WWW.THEDAILY.COM

    Justifiable homicide in the city shot up 79 percent in 2011 from the previous year, as citizens in the long-suffering city armed themselves and took matters into their own hands. The local rate of self-defense killings now stands 2,200 percent above the national average. Residents, unable to rely on a dwindling police force to keep them safe, are fighting back against the criminal scourge on their own. And they’re offering no apologies.


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    Detroiters are arming themselves with shotguns and handguns and buying guard dogs. Anything to take care of their own. And privately, residents say neighborhood watch groups in Detroit are widely armed.

    “It’s like the militiamen who stepped up way back when. That’s where the neighborhood folks are," said James “Jackrabbit” Jackson, a 63-year-old retired Detroit cop who has patrolled the Jefferson-Chalmers neighborhood for years.

    “They’re ready to fight,” Jackson said. “We don’t hardly see police anymore.”

    The city’s wealthier enclaves have hired private security firms. Intimidating men in armored trucks patrol streets lined with gracious old homes in a scene more likely seen in Mexico City than the United States.
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    And that is what my plan is.... this is a good thing, but ridiculous as well. When will the BG's learn?
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    When will the BG's learn?

    dead rather puts an end to their ability to absorb new information

    upside is dead BG's do not contribute to prsion overcrowding.
    downside is if the DA pushes, the good guy has deep out of pocket expenses.

    need to tweak the law such that if a DA loses than the good guys expenses are covered by
    monies from the DA's fund. may cut down on spitful actions by the DA if his salary was tied to performance.
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    Amazing! Well done-Citizens of Detroit!

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    They'll get them whittled down eventually and their average will drop into place with everywhere else. The BG's had a free run there for quite awhile, and it will take them time to learn the new rules.
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    "Early, the director of the criminal justice studies program at the University of Michigan’s Dearborn campus, reasoned with the men for more than 20 minutes before he sensed they were about to shoot him in the head — then he ran. As his attackers fled in the opposite direction, neighbors emerged from the street’s stately homes with shotguns."

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    they need to change the laws to better protect the homeowner/citizen

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    If I'm not mistaken, the guy in the article/photo is driving north on Mt. Elliot, next to the oldest cemetary in the city, Mt. Elliot/Elmwood cemetary. It's considered a (local) historic site.

    JD, I had no idea you were a "home boy" from the D. As you know there are still pockets of the city, like Palmer Woods, Indian Village, Cork Town, etc., that are still worth preserving, IMO. Unfortunately, the residents in these parts of the city are surrounded by "less than desirable" neighbors/neighborhoods. Mayor (Dave) Bing has his hands full. By this April, if the city workers don't agree to concessions, a state appointed financial manager will (officially) take over or they'll run out of cash. If that happens they'll need to declare "bankruptcy", re-negotiate contracts, re-district and divert city services to only certain parts of the city. The unions can then kiss their CBA's bye bye.

    Those of us, who still live in the metro-D area, are under no illusions that things will get better any time soon. In fact, I don't think we've seen the bottom yet, but it's coming soon. Not quite SHTF, WROL or prepper scenarios, but definitely a reason to stay (more) alert and vigilant.
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    Just curious, anyone know what the murder rate is doing in comparison to the homicide rate? It would not surprise me to see politicians trumpeting a carefully worded increase in the homicide rate. But what are they to do if the homicide rate is up but the murder rate is significantly down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcp1810 View Post
    Just curious, anyone know what the murder rate is doing in comparison to the homicide rate? It would not surprise me to see politicians trumpeting a carefully worded increase in the homicide rate. But what are they to do if the homicide rate is up but the murder rate is significantly down?
    The anti's have no problem with combining the numbers when it comes to deaths by firearms. They know that the normal public does not realize the difference. They do not understand the difference between a legal homicide and a murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotorCityGun View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, the guy in the article/photo is driving north on Mt. Elliot, next to the oldest cemetary in the city, Mt. Elliot/Elmwood cemetary. It's considered a (local) historic site.

    JD, I had no idea you were a "home boy" from the D. As you know there are still pockets of the city, like Palmer Woods, Indian Village, Cork Town, etc., that are still worth preserving, IMO. Unfortunately, the residents in these parts of the city are surrounded by "less than desirable" neighbors/neighborhoods. Mayor (Dave) Bing has his hands full. By this April, if the city workers don't agree to concessions, a state appointed financial manager will (officially) take over or they'll run out of cash. If that happens they'll need to declare "bankruptcy", re-negotiate contracts, re-district and divert city services to only certain parts of the city. The unions can then kiss their CBA's bye bye.

    Those of us, who still live in the metro-D area, are under no illusions that things will get better any time soon. In fact, I don't think we've seen the bottom yet, but it's coming soon. Not quite SHTF, WROL or prepper scenarios, but definitely a reason to stay (more) alert and vigilant.
    I grew up in the 'burbs. Worked downtown for a little while after leaving the service.

    I miss Greektown, but for the most part I'm just still glad to be out of the Down River area all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I grew up in the 'burbs. Worked downtown for a little while after leaving the service.

    I miss Greektown, but for the most part I'm just still glad to be out of the Down River area all together.
    Greektown was (probably still is) the safest 6-square block area in downtown 'DayTwa'...the Greek mafia takes care of its own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I grew up in the 'burbs. Worked downtown for a little while after leaving the service.

    I miss Greektown, but for the most part I'm just still glad to be out of the Down River area all together.
    Even Greektown is not the same as it was in the 'ole days. Can you imagine GT without New Hellas? Well, they closed a little over a year ago, and it hasn't been the same since.

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    Greektown was (probably still is) the safest 6-square block area in downtown 'DayTwa'...the Greek mafia takes care of it own.
    I thought so too until this happened Motorist to plead guilty in death of Detroit police officer in Greektown. Of course, the local media did not make anything out of the fact that the killer was of "middle eastern" descent. Don't want to upset that "demographic", don'cha' know, even when one of them ends up killing one of our finest LEO's.
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    It really a shame that an American city can degenerate to this degree. Makes me appreciate the small town I live in. The problems of government in a large city like Detroit are unimaginable to me. I hope your situation improves. Until then, stay alert and stay armed.

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    I always wonder why people don't hire their own police. I did a detail at this rich guys house for a week (don't know why he only wanted a week worth of protection) then I got the thinking that if all of this neighbors kicked in, everybody would pay about $500 for their own guards to walk/drive up and down the street.
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