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    Campus Police Detain and Draw Weapons on Student Activist for Wearing Empty Holster to Trayvon Martin Vigil

    Columbus, Ohio – Ohio State University Police detained and drew their weapons on student-activist Mike Newbern for demonstrating his support for gun rights by wearing an empty holster to a candlelight vigil for Trayvon Martin on Wednesday.

    Newbern, the president of Buckeyes for Concealed Carry, was taken forcibly into police custody just after 8:30 p.m., while he was standing at the front of the crowd wearing an empty holster, which was clearly visible on his belt, and with his hands crossed in front of his chest.

    A police report released on Thursday indicates two officers drew their firearms before approaching Newbern and removing him from the vigil. They searched and questioned Newbern and confiscated his personal belongings, including his empty holster and camera case, before placing him handcuffed in the back of a cruiser for 30 minutes. Newbern was released at 9:07 p.m. but was informed by police that the field investigation would be forwarded to the university’s Committee of Academic Misconduct where he could be charged with disorderly conduct.

    Newbern, who is a certified firearms safety instructor, said on Thursday he decided to attend the vigil to exercise his First Amendment right to demonstrate in favor of Ohio’s concealed carry laws. He said he suspects’ campus police and students harassed him because he is the leader of Buckeyes for Concealed Carry, a group Ohio State University President Gordon Gee has publically described as "vigilante."

    Campus Police Detain and Draw Weapons on Student Activist for Wearing Empty Holster to Trayvon Martin Vigil


    My vote:A really dumb ass, insensitive, inconsiderate publicity stunt.
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    Not the best idea, but it does appear he was harrassed by government officials for doing nothing illegal.
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    Again, not the best idea IMO. But detained for an empty holster? Possible disorderly conduct? Could be a lawsuit???
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    So he was detained for what amounts to an unreasonable amount of time, possessions taken and all that for not breaking the law? Guess OSU Police need re-education on how to do police work. Do I smell what could be a 42USC1983 here?
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    That holster could have been used as a deadly weapon. The nazis I mean campus cops saved countless live and should be commended on their heroism and bravery!
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    I should take what little OSU gear I have to the campus and put it in the dumpster, I never was a fan of the buckeyes anyways.
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    I hope the incident has a video record...$$$
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    From article;

    "You and I can debate that all day long and you have clear arguments," Gee said, addressing his remarks to Newbern. "But, I am in charge and we are not going to do it." Ohio State University President Gordon Gee


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    We'll be hearing more about this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justherenow View Post
    I should take what little OSU gear I have to the campus and put it in the dumpster, I never was a fan of the buckeyes anyways.
    My ex-wife is a buckeye. I never have liked them.

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    He wore an empty holster for one reason....he wanted to make a statement and hopefully get publicity.

    He succeeded. Bravo. Clap, clap, clap.

    So now, he should be allowed to sue and be rewarded for his successful endeavor?
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    If I saw a guy with an empty holster I would wonder where the gun was ...
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    IMO, that was a ballsy move on his part. The charges against him are pretty sketchy for just making a political statement...white supremacists get police protection whilst doing far worse - again, IMO.
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