Turnovers in death row in NC

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    The police are not there to protect you from crime, they are there to arrest the guy after the crime has been committed, assuming they find him. It is your responsibility to protect yourself and your family.

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    okay. I guess... Can't say much without sounding racist... I'm sure the statistics backing the law are correct.

    That said, murder is murder... If you are going to reduce the death penalty for one, based on statistics, fine... but just commute all existing death sentences to life without parole. And start anew. All trials from now on will have a "balanced jury" whatever THAT means... and from now on... Death sentence means death sentence.
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    All trials from now on will have a "balanced jury" whatever THAT means... and from now on... Death sentence means death sentence.
    Bingo!!!
    All persons sentenced to death under the new law will be executed within a period of two years from conviction when incontrovertible DNA evidence was used to convict.

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    The murder was commited in 1991, convicted in 1994 and sentenced to death. ????? Why is he still alive????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????
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    The study found that, of almost 160 people on North Carolina's death row, 31 had all-white juries, and 38 had only one person of color. A defendant is 2.6 times more likely to be sentenced to death if at least one of the victims is white, the study also found.
    Soooo let me understand this,if you have 12 jurors and 11 are black and one is white that jury is 2.6 times more likely to vote for the death penalty than if all 12 are black hmmmmm so I guess that one white guy can exert enough influence over 11 black Jurors to get them to vote to put a black killer on death row.
    How about the fact that the 11 black Jurors thought the murdering SOB deserved the death penalty and convinced the one white Juror to agree with them,makes a lot more sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Soooo let me understand this,if you have 12 jurors and 11 are black and one is white that jury is 2.6 times more likely to vote for the death penalty than if all 12 are black hmmmmm so I guess that one white guy can exert enough influence over 11 black Jurors to get them to vote to put a black killer on death row.
    How about the fact that the 11 black Jurors thought the murdering SOB deserved the death penalty and convinced the one white Juror to agree with them,makes a lot more sense to me.
    I think the way it reads is if one of the victims is white, indicating that the white juries gave the death penalty to the black people for killing white people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigStick View Post
    I think the way it reads is if one of the victims is white, indicating that the white juries gave the death penalty to the black people for killing white people.
    The problem could be partially corrected by sentencing everyone who commits first degree murder to death. Regardless of the race of anyone involved.

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    Our ancestors are the people who survived murder and mayhem through the millenniums. Mostly by defending themselves and their families. Also, forming groups for mutual support.

    Our highly organized, expensive "justice" system is a relatively recent development in the history of man. Protection and justice are seldom found in the "justice" system. They work hard, but most of the effort comes after the murder or crime has occurred. Too late for the victims.

    Learn the habits and skills of self protection. That is the best chance of avoiding victimization a second time by the "justice" system.

    What we can do is run for local government positions. Serve when called for jury duty. Do an honest job. Call 911 when an emergency arises. Call the police non emergency number when something out of the ordinary needs reporting. Get to know and keep an eye on our neighborhoods. Vote.

    If your political subdivision is unable to maintain public order and safety, move. As a free people, we are not assigned an apartment or told where to live. If the people responsible for public safety are unable to deliver, move. It is socialism that tells you where you must live. And when you get to the new location, get politically involved to keep local government focused on quality of life issues.

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    The victim of the crime of murder is still dead....I wish these bleeding-hearts would use statistics to bring the victims back to life. Until that happens, start a death row express lane and clear the backlog.
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