TV crew finds gun, not police
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May 13th, 2012 08:23 PM
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TV crew finds gun, not police
That's not the worst of it. When the reporter (whose crew found the gun) tried to get in contact with the DPD, she got the runaround. 
If you watch the vid, the LEO who retrieves the gun removes all of the spent casings from the respective cylinders. Isn't that tampering with the evidence?
TV News Crew Finds Gun Near Murder Scene in Detroit
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May 13th, 2012 08:40 PM
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That's not the worst of it. When the reporter (whose crew found the gun) tried to get in contact with the DPD, she got the runaround.
If you watch the vid, the LEO who retrieves the gun removes all of the spent casings from the respective cylinders. Isn't that tampering with the evidence?
TV News Crew Finds Gun Near Murder Scene in Detroit
I would think it proper to unload the weapon thus making it safe for future handling. I'm sure he secured the casings away securely to prevent contamination of evidence.
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May 13th, 2012 08:43 PM
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This is really sad. Looks like the Police Department has given up. It may be that they are so over whelmed with killings that just don't care anymore. I really hope this isn't a attitude that spreads across the country to other cities like Chicago or Kansas City. Makes me really happy that I carry concealed. What few times I do go to the city...at least I feel I have a chance of making it home again.
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May 13th, 2012 09:36 PM
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If you watch the vid, the LEO who retrieves the gun removes all of the spent casings from the respective cylinders. Isn't that tampering with the evidence?
looked like he was checking how many rounds were fired and besides he had rubber gloves on.
They act like the cops are responsible for finding a gun. I am sure they looked but unless there is a reason to keep looking there not going to. Let’s face it in most shootings the gun is not left behind UNLESS it is a mob hit
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May 13th, 2012 09:59 PM
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Actually guru, the last gas station robbery I saw resulted in about 6 officers searching the entire surrounding blocks for the weapon. I would assume they would do the same for that, but then again, I'm sure they're much busier in Detroit than here.
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May 14th, 2012 02:32 AM
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I would think it proper to unload the weapon thus making it safe for future handling. I'm sure he secured the casings away securely to prevent contamination of evidence.
Michael
I wouldn't unload it.... I'ld secure it, but not unload it. Finger prints can be found on casings at times..... by unloading it , he just contaminated them or may wipe them out .... and you have a new issue with "chain of evidence" that those were the casings in that gun, at that time, etc. My .02 cents, keep it intact and let it be 'processed' in a controlled environment.
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May 14th, 2012 02:59 AM
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Well you don't turn in a loaded weapon to the evidence room they tend to get really pissed off.
A semi auto you drop the mag, clear the chamber, bag the ammo in a seperate container and submit it with the gun. Revolvers are emptied and bagged and tagged in the same manner. It looked like the officer removing the shell casings was handling them by the cartridge rim and he was in fact wearing gloves so anything there was more than likely preserved as evidence.
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May 14th, 2012 04:51 AM
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Agreed Tacman, officers safety is much more important, I'm sure there were more than enough prints on the gun and casings. If he did not wear gloves it may be a different story.
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May 14th, 2012 04:54 AM
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Sorry for the double post, for some reason it won't let me edit my posts, but just to clarify for some people on here... I'm aware that there's no danger in used casings, but just like all gun safety, you treat every gun like it's loaded in order to keep your good habits.
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May 14th, 2012 06:19 AM
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Years ago I was taught when recovering a revolver unless the hammer is cocked then you lower the hammer,pick it up bag and tag it,they don't go off unless you pull the trigger and the gun is inside a sealed brown paper sack
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May 14th, 2012 07:15 PM
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Years ago I was taught when recovering a revolver unless the hammer is cocked then you lower the hammer,pick it up bag and tag it,they don't go off unless you pull the trigger and the gun is inside a sealed brown paper sack
YEP...... that's what is common practice here, because too many people messed up evidence. It's not uncommon that someone will wipe the outside of a gun clean of prints, never thinking about finger prints on the casings.... which then gets them nailed to the wall. On casings , it's usually only a partial print, but enough.
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