Man with AK-47 helps thwart robbery

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    Man with AK-47 helps thwart robbery

    Man with AK-47 helps thwart robbery

    Web Posted: 09/10/2006 08:33 PM CDT

    Vianna Davila
    Express-News Staff

    When Arthur Winters saw two armed robbers terrorizing his neighborhood, he did the only thing he could think of: He asked his wife to bring him his AK-47.
    "I had to get it to protect my family and the neighbors and all that," Winters said.

    It was part of a series of events, including a fistfight, rock-throwing and haphazard gunshots, that hammered the plans of two robbery suspects Saturday afternoon, leaving one shot and the other stuck in the mud.

    Both men faced aggravated robbery charges.

    A police report told the tale:

    The suspects pulled up in a Ford F-150 and approached Cesar Arellano, busy installing a roof on a home under construction near Barton Court and Hughes Avenue.

    Formalities were brief. One of the suspects suddenly put Arellano in a chokehold, and the other pulled out a gun. They demanded money and his rings.

    Arellano grabbed the gun. The struggle began.

    Arellano's brother, also on site, saw the robbery. He charged and punched one of the intruders.

    Amid the mayhem, the handgun went off, and a stray bullet struck one of the suspects.

    The brothers managed to break free and run to Winters' house for help.

    The wounded suspect bolted for Arellano's vehicle. The other ran for his own pickup.

    Neither got too far.

    Police later traced the wounded suspect to a location a little more than 2 miles away. He was taken to Wilford Hall Medical Center.

    The other suspect's getaway pickup had become stuck in a ditch and then between a curb and a log.

    Then it got worse for him. Arellano and his brother started to hurl rocks at the pickup and broke a window. The suspect bailed out, briefly pointed a gun at the brothers and then ran through an open field.

    Enter Winters.

    He followed through the field, toting the military weapon at his side. When he fired a few rounds at the ground and the suspect kept going, Winters fired some more.

    "Then he stopped, completely stopped," Winters said. "I ran up to him, and he just told me not to kill him."

    Winters, along with Arellano and his brother, held the suspect until police arrived. The neighborhood was again safe.

    "It was a robbery that just went wrong," Winters said.




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    See, AK47s aren't only used by those who "terrorize"!

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    My thinking entirely Spyder!!!!

    a stray bullet struck one of the suspects
    Of course this was quite handy too
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    "It was a robbery that just went wrong," Winters said.
    I think it went rather well.

    If more robberies went like that one, we'd probably see fewer of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowflyer View Post
    If more robberies went like that one, we'd probably see fewer of them.
    Excellent!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowflyer View Post
    I think it went rather well.

    If more robberies went like that one, we'd probably see fewer of them.
    +1 to that

    I personally don't know that I would have been chasing a guy with a gun, but it went well for him, I guess.
    eschew obfuscation

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    be amazed at the number of BG planted on this planet. Some are pretty crafty...most are not (IMHO).
    These two critters got LESS than they deserved!

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    I'm just wondering about the wisdom of throwing rocks at someone with a gun!!
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    Just speculating, but I think if you have two guys throwing rocks at you you might have a hard time aiming. I think I might throw rocks if that was all I had and running wasn't an option.
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    And the worst part.... the Brady Bunch will lump this AK in with "guns used DURING the comission of a crime." Too bad it doesn't specify who was using it to do what....

    Lotsa respect to that guy for giving the AK a good name in its minute of fame.
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    Not sure about the 'minute of fame.' Osama gives the AK a lot of press time.
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    oh my god ! the irreparable harm that man probably cause him . the mental anguish , being chased through a field with no cover all the while rounds being fired off in quick succesion . he probably soiled himself as well , adding to his humiliation . to end up begging for his life ! YOU people amaze me .

    ok i bypassed the spelling for the sarcasim
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    And people like Clint Smith claim you can't miss fast enough to win and yet Winters never hit the guy and the guy stopped. Imagine that!

    Warning shots can and do work, but the problem is that you can't ever count on them doing the necessary job. In other words, there is no consistency of them working and it is rather "hit or miss," pardon the pun, that they get the desired effects.

    Fortunately Winters was smart enough to put them in the ground and not into the air.

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    Man, I must be getting old cuz I read this and while I'm glad the good guys were not hurt, bad guys I'm not concerned about being hurt, the other part of me thinks, 'let them run' they have a gun. The bad guys left their truck so let the cops track them down. Since a shot was fired, they will respond quickly. When the bozos get out of jail, maybe after being faced with an AK-47 they will think twice about a life of crime. . . . . maybe.

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    Of course, if he had an AR, he might have actually hit something.

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    Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.

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