FL man stands his ground against a 4 year old

Man arrested after holding 6 kids at gunpoint | kids, southport, arrested - BCSO - The News Herald

BCSO: Man arrested after holding 6 kids at gunpoint
June 14, 2012 08:12:28 PM
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SOUTHPORT — A 67-year-old Southport man was jailed Wednesday after he allegedly held six children at gunpoint when they used his driveway to turn their off-road vehicle around.

Jerry Lee Fulcher was arrested and charged with one count of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and six counts each of aggravated assault and false imprisonment, according to the Bay County Sheriff’s Office. He was being held in the Bay County Jail without bond pending a first appearance in court Friday.

According the BCSO incident report:

The six children, who are between the ages of 4 and 16, told investigators they were riding an ATV and turned into Fulcher’s driveway at 4036 Deer Point Road to turn around at about 8:30 p.m. Wednesday. They believed the property was vacant, but a man, later identified as Fulcher, came out of the house pointing a handgun at them.

Fulcher ordered the kids to put their hands on their heads, get off the vehicle and lie down on the ground. The 16-year-old driver apologized, but Fulcher cocked the hammer on the revolver and pointed the gun at the driver’s head and told him he’d be the “first to go.” He kept his finger on the trigger.





So based off what I have attempted to find on this guys story...there appears to be no history with this guy and these kids - no prior harassment of him. Seems like he is a loony old guy who just snapped.

I cannot fathom an instance where drawing down on a 4 year old would be justified. This guy is a class 1 jerk and deserves to have the book thrown at him.

This guy HAS lost it...time to take away ALL his weapons and get some free 'room and board'.:pokey:

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Originally Posted by nkanofolives

This guy is a class 1 a-hole and deserves to have the book thrown at him.

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100% agree, this guy's a loon.

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Originally Posted by nkanofolives

I cannot fathom an instance where drawing down on a 4 year old would be justified.

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Understand your point but the title of the thread and the story reminds me of what we accuse the MSM of doing, using hype to get viewership. OMO And I guess technically I could, if a 16 yo knuckle actually did something so egregious HE/SHE need killing and they had 4 yo in tow I might fathom it a microsecond or one.

Only excuse I can think of is senility my grandpaw went crazy like that he should still be punished of course but could be the reason.

6 kids on 1 ATV? He probably thought they were Viet Cong.

This is the "on steroids" version of an old coot yelling "Get off my lawn!"

And gun ownership gets another black eye... thank you Mr. Fulcher for giving the anti-gun movement fuel for their fire

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Originally Posted by gunthorp

6 kids on 1 ATV? He probably thought they were Viet Cong.

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This is also considered an "ATV", I have no idea what kind of ATV these kids were on, but this one seems like a likely choice

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Originally Posted by gunthorp

6 kids on 1 ATV? He probably thought they were Viet Cong.

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Or an orderly retreat from Cambodia.

You're all gonna hate me, but I have to say it- I found this mildly entertaining because I will be the angry old man yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.

...I don't like unparented children.



But, this is way over the top. He should definitely get in more trouble than he can handle and possibly even some pepper-spraying just for good measure. I know if it had been one of my kids, I probably would have beaten him with his own gun at some point.

But that's just me. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by barstoolguru

And gun ownership gets another black eye... thank you Mr. Fulcher for giving the anti-gun movement fuel for their fire

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Exactly my first thoughts. "Fuel for the fire". I can picture someone now,..."are you going to pull your gun on my child if they dare touch your driveway?"

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Originally Posted by RevolvingMag

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...I don't like unparented children.

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It states they were with a 16 year old. At 16 years old, a person is considered responsible enough to legally get behind the wheel of a several ton weapon(SUV), surely they can be responsible enough to watch some children? Isn't 16 years old typically the age where teenagers are babysitting kids to make cash or YOUNGER then 16? Just saying.

This guy is really around the bend. I hate to see anyone lose their Constitutional Rights, BUT this guy really doesn't need his guns anymore. He is mentally at a point where he is a danger to others and himself. If he doesn't get prison...he needs some intensive mental work and supervision. He should have just done what this guy did.

One part of the story seems weird. He had the kids call the mom, and the mom went into the house of what I suppose
was a stranger to her. Maybe they couldn't tell her the story on the phone, but if my kids said he was being
held at someone's home and not allowed to leave, unless I came to get them, I think I'd call 911.

I wonder what mom was thinking when she saw him with the gun in his hand. Had he trapped her? What was he
going to do next? Sounds like a totally horrendous happening, which ads up to about 6 counts of assault with a
deadly weapon, and that should take care of him until he is ready for the undertaker.

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Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71

It states they were with a 16 year old. At 16 years old, a person is considered responsible enough to legally get behind the wheel of a several ton weapon(SUV), surely they can be responsible enough to watch some children? Isn't 16 years old typically the age where teenagers are babysitting kids to make cash or YOUNGER then 16? Just saying.

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Big difference between babysitting in a house, and being out in public. Yes, a 16 year old should be responsible enough to 'watch' the kids, but that's not really what I was saying. My comment was about the way most parents these days let their kids run wild with no repercussions. Last time I was at a grocery store I was nearly run down by a 10 year old pushing a shopping cart like she was running Le Mans. All her mother did was say, in a calm, normal voice that could barely be heard 5 feet away 'stop running' and went back to what she was doing while the kid kept going. And, from what I've seen, that's usually how things go these days. Kids don't get spanked, don't get grounded, don't get snatched back by whatever the parent can reach and made to stand still and quiet when they're misbehaving. -That's what I meant by unparented. Not that the kids in the story didn't have a parent with them, just that most kids I see these days don't have parents keeping them in line.

I'm not defending the guy- what he did was incredibly wrong.

Wow. Turning into a driveway is not a threat, let alone a deadly threat, nor is approaching a property or driving onto an accessible driveway. This idiot deserves every ton of the law that's going to be heaped onto his head. He did it to himself, in this case. Aggravated assault, aggravated battery, and false imprisonment. That's about right.

"Stand Your Ground," eh? IMO, not a bit. It's the in-vogue phrase to use, these days, but it seems to me this is about perceived trespassing and not about attempting to shove the guy off "his ground." Still, apparently this putz believed the concept only applied to him. Anyone should be able to appreciate that everyone else also has the right to be where they are legally justified in being, and that includes temporary use of an accessible driveway for non-threatening (and understandable) purpose of turning one's vehicle around.