TV Station posting list of permit holders

This is a discussion on TV Station posting list of permit holders within the In the News: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Employers in NC can use this list to possibly fire employees as a right to work state. If you have an anti-gun boss you could ...

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 48
Like Tree17Likes

Thread: TV Station posting list of permit holders

  1. #16
    Member Array ponchsox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    472
    Employers in NC can use this list to possibly fire employees as a right to work state. If you have an anti-gun boss you could be out the door.

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #17
    Senior Member Array Dandyone's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Washington
    Posts
    536
    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Now if NC had "constitutional carry" as do Alaska, Vermont, Arizona and Wyoming, this wouldn't create such an issue, would it?

    Talk about unintended consequences - can you imagine if a large number of people opposed to WRAL's publishing the CCW info showed up on the sidewalk outside his house, or his TV station, all openly carrying sidearms? "Hey - you're opposed to 'secrecy' about concealed carry, how do you like this?"
    I don't think this would turn out well for 'our' side... and if the goal is to get the publisher or whoever to change their mind regarding gun control such an action would be counterproductive. Actually the idea looks more like intimidation than anything else.

    I get what you are saying, though, and to some degree share the sentiment.
    GGs
    BGs

    ”Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.”

  4. #18
    Moderator
    Array gasmitty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Gilbert, AZ
    Posts
    10,093
    Quote Originally Posted by Dandyone View Post
    I don't think this would turn out well for 'our' side... and if the goal is to get the publisher or whoever to change their mind regarding gun control such an action would be counterproductive. Actually the idea looks more like intimidation than anything else.

    I get what you are saying, though, and to some degree share the sentiment.
    Pure vindictiveness, nothing else. My hypothetical poke in the eye to what others accurately describe as hatefulness.
    Smitty
    NRA Endowment Member

  5. #19
    VIP Member Array goldshellback's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    OKC; by way of St. Mayberry, GA
    Posts
    4,750
    This is NOT good..........
    "Just getting a concealed carry permit means you haven't commited a crime yet. CCP holders commit crimes." Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, quoted on Fox & Friends, 8 Jul, 2008

    (Sometimes) "a fight avioded is a fight won." ... claude clay

  6. #20
    VIP Member Array NC Bullseye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    NC Foothills
    Posts
    2,503
    Just remember, the more you complain to the offender (WRAL) the more you support them. All your complaint does is to prove they have a bigger audience and therefore can charge more for their ads and such. The only bad response for them when they publish anything is no response.

    If you really want to change this and make a difference, instead of ticking on line petitions or polls, contact your state representatives and tell them you want the records of the concealed carriers made not public record due to personal security concerns.

    You have a voice if you know where to use it.

    A phone call or written letter along with emails to your representatives will have a far greater impact.
    North Carolina Concealed Handgun Permit Instructor
    NRA Personal Protection and Basic Pistol Instructor

  7. #21
    Senior Member
    Array marcclarke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Loveland, Colorado USA
    Posts
    741
    Quote Originally Posted by ponchsox View Post
    Employers in NC can use this list to possibly fire employees as a right to work state. If you have an anti-gun boss you could be out the door.
    On what factual evidence do you base this claim, please?

  8. #22
    Distinguished Member Array noway2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    1,840
    Quote Originally Posted by NC Bullseye View Post
    If you really want to change this and make a difference, instead of ticking on line petitions or polls, contact your state representatives and tell them you want the records of the concealed carriers made not public record due to personal security concerns.(snip) A phone call or written letter along with emails to your representatives will have a far greater impact.
    The idea is to fight this on two fronts. One, letters and emails are being sent, including to Tillis and Berger, as well as the parent company that owns the station. Two, GRNC has said that if this wasn't removed by last Friday, and it was not, that they would initiate a boycott against WRAL's advertisers. Your right that the response shows them that there is an audience, with any luck it will be a big enough one to make the advertisers take notice. Letting them know that their products won't be selling is the next step.

  9. #23
    New Member Array armycook's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Arlington,Tx.
    Posts
    3
    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Permit holders should get together and compile a list of key personnel and reporters at WRAL, including their address. Then rent a billboard and post their names and addresses on it. See how they like being targets.
    Excellent idea....who's holding the money?

  10. #24
    VIP Member Array suntzu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    TX/NH
    Posts
    5,811
    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Permit holders should get together and compile a list of key personnel and reporters at WRAL, including their address. Then rent a billboard and post their names and addresses on it. See how they like being targets.
    My heart says great idea...thought ran through my mind also LOL. But I grew up with two wrongs don't make a right and it could lead to something bad happening. Some nut could show up their house and cause problems

  11. #25
    VIP Member Array ccw9mm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    26,004
    Quote Originally Posted by marcclarke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ponchsox View Post
    Employers in NC can use this list to possibly fire employees as a right to work state. If you have an anti-gun boss you could be out the door.
    On what factual evidence do you base this claim, please?
    NC is an at-will state. 'Nuff said, really.

    To my knowledge, being terminated because firearms/carrying offends certain people at a firm isn't a protected reason for termination. But the simple reality is, it doesn't take much, if a person takes offense with something ... anything, basically. Particularly if a company's policy handbook isn't crystal clear on the subject, combined with a person's entire vertical chain of command being okay with it (given that it's an at-will state). Of course, this particular NC-based list doesn't show full physical addresses or names, at least not on the WRAL web site. Uncertain what specific data elements are made publicly available, in NC, so it's not clear that an employer would necessarily find out, simply by checking a list.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
    NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

  12. #26
    VIP Member
    Array msgt/ret's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    7,137
    Permit info is supposed to be available to LEO and county clerks only; I wonder how WRAL is able to access that info?

    § 14‑415.17. Permit; sheriff to retain and make available to law enforcement agencies a list of permittees.

    The permit shall be in a certificate form, as prescribed by the Administrative Office of the Courts, that is approximately the size of a North Carolina drivers license. It shall bear the signature, name, address, date of birth, and the drivers license identification number used in applying for the permit. The sheriff shall maintain a listing, including the identifying information, of those persons who are issued a permit. The permit information shall be available upon request to all State and local law enforcement agencies.

    Within five days of the date a permit is issued, the sheriff shall send a copy of the permit to the State Bureau of Investigation. The State Bureau of Investigation shall make this information available to law enforcement officers and clerks of court on a statewide system. (1995, c. 398, s. 1; 2011‑268, s. 19.)
    When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
    "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."

  13. #27
    VIP Member Array ccw9mm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    26,004

    Question

    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Permit info is supposed to be available to LEO and county clerks only; I wonder how WRAL is able to access that info?
    Well, that snippet you showed indicates NC § 14-415.17 states that "The permit information shall be available upon request to all State and local law enforcement agencies." But it doesn't state that ONLY those groups are to be recipients. Seems that it only says such agencies can request it, and it'll be made available to them. Doesn't say anything about anyone else, such as a group of newsies, citizen, employer.

    Is there a different statute that limits distribution/availability of the data, or is the implied wording of § 14-415.7 different than what it appears to be?
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
    NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

  14. #28
    Ex Member Array Yankeejib's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Tampa, FL
    Posts
    1,003
    You might make a list of advertisers and contact them (a boycott letter penned by an attorney always gets a little more attention). That would work fastest, especially if you get some folks in with you (friends, LGS, etc)

  15. #29
    VIP Member Array mprp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,886
    What is it with people having the need to stick their noses in others' business? I guess it's also an easy way to make sure you don't pick one of those as a target if you're the BG. Oh well, so be it.
    Vietnam Vets, WELCOME HOME

    Crossman 760 BB/Pellet, Daisy Red Ryder, Crossman Wrist Rocket, 14 Steak Knives, 3 Fillet Knives, Rolling Pin-14", Various Hunting Knives, 2 Baseball Bats, 3 Big Dogs and a big American Flag flying in the yard. I have no firearms; Try the next house.

  16. #30
    Member Array KimBobTex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    432
    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Permit holders should get together and compile a list of key personnel and reporters at WRAL, including their address. Then rent a billboard and post their names and addresses on it. See how they like being targets.
    ^^^^^^^^^ You beat me to it ^^^^^^^^^

    TX state law prohibits such childish antics. I vaguely remember a story several years back of a newspaper doing this & the locals getting together, researched all employees names, phone numbers, & addresses & publishing them on a website. The paper mysteriously stopped this practice.
    Asked by a CNN reporter "What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist"?, the Marine sniper simply shrugged & replied "recoil".

    Now more than ever, we are at war on our home soil ... WAKE UP & arm our troops when they are on home soil!

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

arkansas concealed carry permit holders list

,
durham nc list of carry permit holders
,

list of all concealed carry permit holders in kentucky

,
list of arkansas ccw holder search
,
list of concealed carry permit holders kentucky
,
list of concealed permit holders nc
,

list of kentucky concealed carry permit holders

,

please publish ar concealed carry list

,

raleigh nc station lists concealed carry permit holders

,

wral advertisers boycott

,

wral ccp holder

,

wral gun registry

Click on a term to search for related topics.