Navy Seal Lessons Learned from Aurora Colorado

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    As I continue to read about the terrible tragedy in Aurora, Colorado, I canít help but think thereís some lessons from my time as a Navy SEAL that I can pass on to the average citizen. So here goesÖ

    Donít Make Yourself an Easy Target

    When at sporting events, concerts, and the movies, choose seats that give you a tactical advantage always. What do I mean? Choose seats that allow good and east vantage points and a hasty exit point. Always stack the odds in your favor. Itís the reason I still combat park (back in to a space) and sit with my back to the wall when Iím eating.

    Active Shooter Scenario Advice

    Take cover and not concealment. Concealment hides, cover hides AND protects. Itís the difference between hiding behind a movie seat or a concrete wall.

    Donít lie there with your eyes closed and get shot. Think and move. A good decision executed quickly is better than a great one never executed. Violence of action, as we call it in the Spec Ops community, will often change the odds in your favor.

    For close quarter combat drills weíd draw a gun with someone over 20 feet away running at us. In most cases you can be on someone before they can draw and take a shot. Iím not advocating running straight at someone but if you have the tactical advantage (jam, re-loading, distraction or the shooter isnít paying attention) then take the shooter down or get the hell out of there. Deal with the situation with your eyes wide open.

    In Aurora, the shooter was severely weighted down with armor and his helmet would have also limited his vision. You can use all this to your advantage.

    Flashlight anyone? I have one for daily carry and take it everywhere with me. Itís become another extension of me and has diffused at least two potentially violent confrontations in a non-lethal way. I recommend 200+ lumens.

    How to use it in this situation?

    I would have pulled my high lumens pocket flashlight and blinded this guy. The high powered beam would have taken away his vision for 3-4 seconds, which is an eternity and enough time to flight or fight. Thereís also no shame in surviving and getting you and your loved ones out of harm Ė especially little ones. Be a Hero to your kids and family for surviving, nobody can expect more of you than that. Like we say in Survival Escape Evasion Resistance (SERE) school, ďSurvive with Honor.Ē

    Concealed Carry

    If youíre lucky enough to live in a state like Texas that not only allows concealed carry, but supports the use of deadly force, then train to use it.

    ~snip~
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    All good. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier View Post
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    As I continue to read about the terrible tragedy in Aurora, Colorado, I can’t help but think there’s some lessons from my time as a Navy SEAL that I can pass on to the average citizen. So here goes…

    Don’t Make Yourself an Easy Target

    When at sporting events, concerts, and the movies, choose seats that give you a tactical advantage always. What do I mean? Choose seats that allow good and east vantage points and a hasty exit point. Always stack the odds in your favor. It’s the reason I still combat park (back in to a space) and sit with my back to the wall when I’m eating.

    Active Shooter Scenario Advice

    Take cover and not concealment. Concealment hides, cover hides AND protects. It’s the difference between hiding behind a movie seat or a concrete wall.

    Don’t lie there with your eyes closed and get shot. Think and move. A good decision executed quickly is better than a great one never executed. Violence of action, as we call it in the Spec Ops community, will often change the odds in your favor.

    For close quarter combat drills we’d draw a gun with someone over 20 feet away running at us. In most cases you can be on someone before they can draw and take a shot. I’m not advocating running straight at someone but if you have the tactical advantage (jam, re-loading, distraction or the shooter isn’t paying attention) then take the shooter down or get the hell out of there. Deal with the situation with your eyes wide open.

    In Aurora, the shooter was severely weighted down with armor and his helmet would have also limited his vision. You can use all this to your advantage.

    Flashlight anyone? I have one for daily carry and take it everywhere with me. It’s become another extension of me and has diffused at least two potentially violent confrontations in a non-lethal way. I recommend 200+ lumens.

    How to use it in this situation?

    I would have pulled my high lumens pocket flashlight and blinded this guy. The high powered beam would have taken away his vision for 3-4 seconds, which is an eternity and enough time to flight or fight. There’s also no shame in surviving and getting you and your loved ones out of harm – especially little ones. Be a Hero to your kids and family for surviving, nobody can expect more of you than that. Like we say in Survival Escape Evasion Resistance (SERE) school, “Survive with Honor.”

    Concealed Carry

    If you’re lucky enough to live in a state like Texas that not only allows concealed carry, but supports the use of deadly force, then train to use it.

    ~snip~

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    Posted the flashlight question earlier. Was told that 'gadgets don't make a difference' or some other such nonsense.

    I went out and purchased a 340 lumen defensive light with a strobe.
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    All GREAT Advice!!

    I have always carried multiple weapons as well as survival tools of different types. My wife laughs at me & says I carry more stuff on me & in my pockets than she carries in her purse. I have lived by the Moto Be-Prepared since my days as a Boy Scout with a Military/Law Enforcement Scout Master that made Boy Scouts a Life long Lesson.

    Im not a Navy Seal but I am amazed at how I already do many things instinctively.


    Thanks for posting this advice.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandyone View Post
    Posted the flashlight question earlier. Was told that 'gadgets don't make a difference' or some other such nonsense.

    I went out and purchased a 340 linen defensive light with a strobe.
    Gadgets don't but light certainly does.

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    Good stuff there.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockrocker View Post
    What Team and when?
    Click on the link in the OP... it gives his name.. but not his team...

    Whether or not a real deal SEAL... the advice is up to par...
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    Just curious,profile does'nt say,I may have served with or met him,not bashing,YET!
    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Click on the link in the OP... it gives his name.. but not his team...

    Whether or not a real deal SEAL... the advice is up to par...

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    Great advice. Thanks for posting.

    RE: the flashlight idea. I always have 200 lumen light in my pocket. It has a terrific strobe, which would surely have blinded the guy for a second or two. BUT if I strobed the shooter, wouldn't that also attract his fire??? I would think he might be enraged and hose my area down with fire??

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockrocker View Post
    Just curious,profile does'nt say,I may have served with or met him,not bashing,YET!
    What you read is a ~snip~ from the link in the post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier View Post
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    For close quarter combat drills weíd draw a gun with someone over 20 feet away running at us. In most cases you can be on someone before they can draw and take a shot. Iím not advocating running straight at someone but if you have the tactical advantage (jam, re-loading, distraction or the shooter isnít paying attention) then take the shooter down or get the hell out of there. Deal with the situation with your eyes wide open.

    If youíre lucky enough to live in a state like Texas that not only allows concealed carry, but supports the use of deadly force, then train to use it.

    ~snip~
    The twenty foot rule is so true. We do this often in my defensive handgun classes every week. When the word go is said you can be draped all over somebody from 20' in less than a second. That's a second to get off a crippling shot. If you cannot separate then commit to closure without delay. The shooter should come up from your offensive attack with no eyes and a multitude of other crippling injuries.

    I live in Texas and I take my carry responsibilty to the next level. If you have never trained with a professional, try it. You will be amazed at what you don't know and what you think you know is wrong.

    Thanks SEAL, thanks for your service.

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    Not to mention he was wearing a gas mask & his side vision would have been poor to say the least....
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    Thanks,you are right,SORRY EX SOLDIER,I did not read the article, I try to stay away from media if at all possible.Apoligies to OAKCHAS also.
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    I agree ABOUT A flashlight. I know its a movie, but if you ever have the chance, see the movie Kick Ass specifically when the daughter uses a STROBE in one of the last fight scenes. I see that happening to some extent. A strong flashing strobe will really mess you up.
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